IRC log of altwfc on 2014-05-28

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00:17:35 [BarronWaffles]Alright, snagged my import of Drakengard 3 CE.
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00:59:35 [Genosync]!stat
00:59:35 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartwii'
00:59:40 [Genosync]!stat smashbrosxwii
00:59:40 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
01:00:15 [Nagato]Genosync, unrelated to brawl, but we made some changes to the server so mario kart wii's friend stuff might work better now
01:00:43 [Nagato]might be worth giving it a try sometime later if you were interested in that
01:01:01 [Nagato]i think friend codes might work without having to play a game now. maybe
01:01:40 [Genosync]alright
01:01:46 [Genosync]anyone want to give it a shot with me?
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01:03:26 [bobmcjr]Genosync: Maybe soon. I'll remove and re add you
01:03:53 [Genosync]k just let me know, loading up brawl atm
01:03:55 [Genosync]testing stuff
01:04:11 [Genosync]ugh
01:04:14 [BarronWaffles]anyone want to mkds?
01:04:22 [Genosync]my default option ocarina code's not working
01:04:22 [Genosync]wtf
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01:09:12 [einstein95]Alright, I got a DS lite. When I get home, it's super happy fun time
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01:10:26 [bobmcjr]Genosync: I'm removing you on mkwii
01:11:24 [BarronWaffles]Sweet einstein95
01:13:37 [Genosync]k
01:13:40 [Genosync]I'll get on mkwii in a sec
01:13:47 [Genosync]about to smash codemanager through my monitor
01:13:54 [Genosync]no idea why some of these codes I've used countless times aren't working
01:14:46 [Genosync]GOD
01:15:22 [Genosync]still nothing
01:15:25 [Genosync]what the fuck
01:17:35 [bobmcjr]If you can get it to work I'll need your friend code again
01:21:02 [Team_Fail_]<einstein95> Alright, I got a DS lite. When I get home, it's super happy fun time >> yaaaaaaaaaay
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01:30:11 [vaguerant]Oh, that's awesome, congratulations, einstein95.
01:30:16 [vaguerant]What color'd you get?
01:30:28 [Genosync]took out some codes that weren't working
01:30:28 [Genosync]so
01:30:31 [Genosync]let's see what happens
01:31:28 [Genosync]worked
01:31:39 [Genosync]I think these stupid freeze char select timer codes were fucking it up
01:31:45 [Nagato]adding a friend worked?
01:31:48 [Nagato]or the codes?
01:32:03 [Genosync]mad about my ocarina GCT I was trying to recompile atm
01:32:06 [Genosync]I think I got it working
01:32:10 [Genosync]now on to MKWii
01:32:34 [Genosync]there's a code to make Brawl have default settings (3stock, 8min stock timer, etc)
01:32:38 [Genosync]and it wasn't working
01:32:45 [Genosync]so I was getting a little irritated
01:33:30 [Genosync]too bad this MK Wii full unlock ocarina code isn't working
01:33:39 [Nagato]:(
01:33:49 [Genosync]will have to play with that later
01:33:51 [Genosync]or just dl a save
01:34:08 [Genosync](I don't actually care about mkwii so probably will do neither)
01:34:24 [Nagato]understandable
01:34:42 [Team_Fail]vaguerant: I have a pair of lites myself, one of them is on loan to a friend until they get a 3ds
01:34:49 [Team_Fail]one of them has a case mod on it though
01:34:51 [Team_Fail]it's so sick
01:35:01 [Genosync]added Bob's fc
01:35:04 [Genosync]showing ?
01:35:10 [Genosync]oh
01:35:12 [Genosync]he needs my fc again
01:35:12 [Genosync]um
01:35:21 [Genosync]3092-3764-6465
01:35:26 [Genosync]I wrote yours down Bob so I don't need it
01:35:27 [Genosync]unless it changed
01:36:22 [Team_Fail]vaguerant: http://www.romhack.me/file/pic/photo/2012/08/09680c990418ce85f73504ea0c60088a_1024.jpg?t=53853d7f41d6a
01:36:41 [einstein95]vaguerant: It's a silver lid+black base guitar hero branded one
01:36:49 [vaguerant]Huh, what game ... ahhhhhhh.
01:36:59 [vaguerant]Does it come with the guitar hero controller thing?
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01:37:12 [einstein95]Nah, just the DS + charger :P
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01:39:46 [BarronWaffles]bit.ly/1lPT7cl
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01:40:02 [BarronWaffles]That's most of the chinese lid designs
01:40:15 [BarronWaffles]Some other aliexpress retailer probably sells for cheaper
01:40:45 [Nagato]>10.Nintendong
01:40:51 [Nagato]i sure do love nintendongs
01:41:01 [Nagato]>11.China Gragon
01:41:56 [BarronWaffles]Gragon gonna' get cha
01:42:06 [Team_Fail]BarronWaffles: Yeah, the design is exclusive to China
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01:42:09 [Team_Fail]i really like it though
01:42:15 [Team_Fail]hi Committee
01:42:15 [Genosync]anyone else want to test MK Wii real quick?
01:42:21 [Team_Fail]i don't have it, myself
01:42:22 [Committee]olah!
01:42:28 [Team_Fail]OH BTW
01:42:30 [Committee]??
01:42:31 [FleshVortex]i would but my bro still hasnt payed the cable bill
01:42:36 [FleshVortex]hence im stuck on mk7
01:42:41 [Team_Fail]a friend is lending me a OoT/MM/LoZ2 Gamecube game
01:42:46 [Team_Fail]I CANNOT WAIT TO PLAY IT
01:42:56 [Committee]Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the gamers, the DS, and Wii..
01:43:05 [Committee]Oooh nice lineup
01:43:06 [Team_Fail]then again i'll probably just load it onto a USB loader
01:43:13 [vaguerant]Have fun crashing in Majora's Mask apparently.
01:43:18 [Team_Fail]?
01:43:29 [FleshVortex]sounds similar to the LoZ collection disc
01:43:42 [vaguerant]MM on that collection is supposedly really crashy. I dunno if I'm just magic, I played through it fine.
01:43:58 [FleshVortex]i nvr encountered any issues myself
01:44:05 [Genosync]pretty sure I had it and no crashes also
01:44:10 [Team_Fail]FleshVortex: It is
01:44:34 [Team_Fail]i'll have to get it set up with devolution
01:45:28 [Team_Fail]that, or else CFG
01:46:15 [einstein95]FleshVortex: It probably is the LoZ collection disc
01:46:20 [einstein95]Oh
01:46:21 [Committee]hey team_Fail
01:46:31 [Committee]any chance you can add the forum link to the wiki?
01:47:20 [einstein95]I never knew it was "official"
01:47:26 [Committee]it isnt
01:47:27 [Committee]:D
01:48:05 [einstein95]So I could make a yahoo group for altwfc and put it on the wiki?
01:48:12 [Team_Fail]Committee: I probably could
01:48:45 [Committee]einstein95 to be organized I think its better we use the pokemonhackers forum for now
01:48:55 [Team_Fail]it's fairly organized too as it stands
01:49:08 [Committee]egggggsactly
01:49:22 [einstein95]Organised?
01:49:25 [Team_Fail]http://pokemonhackersonline.com/forumdisplay.php?f=172
01:49:26 [Sacchi]Save Nintendo WiFi Project - PHO - Pokémon Hackers Online
01:49:30 [Team_Fail]there's a general section right there
01:49:31 [Committee]check it out :D
01:49:33 [Team_Fail]and two sub forums
01:49:35 [Team_Fail]one for ds
01:49:37 [Team_Fail]and one for wii
01:49:47 [Committee]Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the gamers, the DS, and Wii..
01:49:55 [einstein95]Why not just make a database of codes that are confirmed working?
01:50:12 [BarronWaffles]Let Nagato decide I guess?
01:50:24 [BarronWaffles]Coffee and sandwich time]
01:50:41 [Committee]you mean AR codes to enable the connection to the server? I believe Team_Fail is settling a list like that
01:50:42 [Team_Fail]i was going to wait for Nagato to add the link, i'm not sure if he wants to or not...
01:50:56 [vaguerant]I was thinking tea and wheat bag on my messed up neck time.
01:50:56 [Team_Fail]i have threads for various games
01:51:13 [einstein95]-various +couple
01:51:15 [Committee]oh well, just my 2 cents
01:51:28 [Committee]which coincidentally is all I have right now :D
01:51:34 [FleshVortex]blue shells -_- damn these accursed things!
01:51:35 [BarronWaffles]Earl Gray?
01:51:41 [Team_Fail]einstein95: Well, nobody has really posted there yet, so once more cheats are made, more threads can be made
01:51:43 [BarronWaffles]Gotta be Earl Grey.
01:51:57 [Committee]Chamomile
01:51:57 [Team_Fail]and more people can make more threads
01:51:57 [vaguerant]Prof9's plan was just to generate all the codes and pass them on to elixirdream to have them added to the cheat database.
01:52:24 [einstein95]Team_Fail: ROM + wfcreplay = code, put the codes together and test them, ??? profit
01:52:58 [Team_Fail]well, we can see what Nagato says. i did pm him about this a while back, but it's kinda stalled since then
01:53:28 [Team_Fail]plus, not everyone can use a database or roms, ie: people with authentic carts
01:53:36 [Team_Fail]having a premade code is much faster
01:53:36 [BarronWaffles]Authentic carts can
01:53:47 [vaguerant]Doesn't the actual Action Replay take the XML database?
01:53:52 [BarronWaffles]Mmm
01:53:59 [BarronWaffles]Yes
01:54:12 [vaguerant]So yeah. Database is God.
01:54:16 [Team_Fail]most cheat databases are .dat for flashcards, unless you make some kind of xml for the AR Code Manager to read
01:54:18 [vaguerant]All hail database.
01:54:38 [Team_Fail]plus, threads could list game compatibility (What does and doesn't work)
01:54:45 [Team_Fail]and discussions on each game
01:54:47 [Team_Fail]meetups
01:54:48 [Team_Fail]etc
01:55:31 [Prof9]R4CCE can save/load .dat and .xml
01:55:49 [Prof9]and yeah I was considering that
01:55:51 [Team_Fail]Prof9: I never knew that. #themoreyouknow
01:56:01 [Prof9]but then I realized there are kind of a whole fuckin lot of WFC enabled games
01:56:34 [vaguerant]Yeah. We were figuring somewhere around 400ish.
01:56:45 [Team_Fail]damn
01:56:52 [einstein95]Team_Fail: "meetups" on a pokemon community's forum would probably revolve around a few games
01:57:05 [Team_Fail]so would a database or a forum section work better for this then, in your opinion?
01:57:34 [Prof9]for now I'm just scooping up ROMs
01:57:36 [vaguerant]I'd say a database does a better job of being a database and a forum does a better job of being a forum.
01:58:22 [Prof9]and once I have a decent collection I'll just run all of them through WfcReplay I guess
01:58:25 [einstein95]The only forum I know that's sort of like a database is gcforever's section where Ralf posts his codes
01:58:45 [vaguerant]You'd be better off making someone with a fullset already do it.
01:59:27 [Prof9]unfortunately you don't just go asking sceners to sift through thousands of ROMs
02:00:07 [vaguerant]What would be useful is an actual list of ROMs, which isn't something we have now.
02:00:14 [BarronWaffles]Salami and cream cheese, mmmm
02:00:29 [vaguerant]It'd be good for whatever future stats page there is, for anyone trying to create a database of codes, etc.
02:00:32 [einstein95]No-one's backed up Guinness World Record's leaderboards
02:00:51 [BarronWaffles]Oh noes
02:01:00 [Prof9]the biggest problem is that each game also has multiple regions and such
02:01:09 [vaguerant]Right, that's the thing.
02:01:22 [Prof9]and many of them didn't get a scene release
02:01:40 [Prof9]so have fun scouring brazilian blog sites full of dead megaupload links
02:01:43 [vaguerant]There's a flag in the header for "wi-fi enabled", right?
02:01:49 [Prof9]is there?
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02:01:55 [Prof9]I'm just going through that list you posted
02:01:55 [BarronWaffles]That would help
02:02:00 [einstein95]Prof9: No-Intro sets are relatively well uploaded
02:02:02 [vaguerant]I thought there was, but I could be full of shit.
02:03:18 [vaguerant]If that is the case, a tool could be run on a full-set to list all the Wi-Fi ROMs.
02:03:44 [Prof9]yeah I can find them on some private trackers
02:03:49 [Prof9]but I don't have that kind of ratio lol
02:04:05 [vaguerant]Also Prof9: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=sB30D5x1
02:04:17 [Prof9]yeah that's the list I was using
02:04:42 [einstein95]vaguerant: http://problemkaputt.de/gbatek.htm#dscartridgeheader I don't see a Wi-Fi specific flag
02:04:46 [vaguerant]Newer version of the list, includes a few that were missed out originally and I've been renaming some of the left column to actually match released games; some of them are working titles, etc.
02:04:47 [Sacchi]GBATEK - GBA/NDS Technical Info
02:05:15 [vaguerant]That's a shame.
02:06:06 [Prof9]oh I was also renaming stuff
02:06:34 [Prof9]http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=AcWix3UV
02:07:29 [einstein95]vaguerant: Didn't we find out Air Wings was Jet Impulse?
02:07:48 [vaguerant]Yep.
02:07:52 [vaguerant]I downloaded it to confirm.
02:07:58 [Prof9]maybe we should make a google document
02:08:03 [Prof9]or something
02:08:08 [Prof9]spreadsheet
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02:08:14 [einstein95]That sounds good
02:09:48 [Genosync]yay I got random stage select back.
02:09:52 [Genosync]bobmcjr2 you around yet?
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02:11:20 [Genosync]!stat
02:11:20 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
02:11:26 [Genosync]!stat smashbrosxwii
02:11:26 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
02:11:29 [Genosync]and that'd be meeeeeee.
02:12:21 [bobmcjr2]Sorry im off for the night for wii
02:12:29 [Team_Fail]Prof9: Do you know what that "Nintendo Sake Test" is?
02:12:40 [hhhhhhhh]!stat
02:12:41 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii', 'mariokartds'
02:12:48 [hhhhhhhh]!stat mariokartds
02:12:48 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 1 player.
02:12:55 [hhhhhhhh]^hhhhhhhh
02:14:44 [BarronWaffles]!stat mariokartds
02:14:44 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 2 players.
02:16:58 [BarronWaffles]!stat mariokartds
02:16:59 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 1 player.
02:17:08 [hhhhhhhh]disconnected
02:17:25 [Prof9]um, cafetaria assessment?
02:17:36 [BarronWaffles]Oh, try again? I'm in worldwide.
02:18:00 [Prof9]wait that's not an English word
02:18:18 [Prof9]boy do I look stupid now
02:18:20 [einstein95]Nintendo's DS app for testing alcohol
02:18:50 [Prof9]cafeteria*
02:19:24 [BarronWaffles]Awww
02:19:39 [BarronWaffles]Searching again
02:20:45 [hhhhhhhh]did it freeze?
02:21:01 [BarronWaffles]Nope, it just said opponent disconnected
02:21:16 [BarronWaffles]I'm searching worldwide again
02:22:33 [vaguerant]Somebody with better regex skills than me should start the list over from aluigi's.
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02:22:55 [Prof9]how so?
02:23:49 [vaguerant]Eh, my list has all the games now I'm pretty sure, but it's also got my edits to names, which aren't from the real GameSpot list.
02:24:30 [Prof9]is that a bad thing...?
02:24:39 [vaguerant]Probably not I guess.
02:24:47 [Pipian]vaguerant: Which list do you have
02:24:56 [BarronWaffles]searching hhhhhhhh?
02:24:56 [Pipian]Culled/revised from aluigis I take?
02:25:03 [vaguerant]That's correct, Pipian.
02:25:03 [BarronWaffles]!stat mariokartds
02:25:04 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 1 player.
02:25:04 [Pipian]I have used aluigi’s straight for !stat
02:25:07 [vaguerant]http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=sB30D5x1
02:25:15 [Pipian]Except that I rewrote the game-names for Pokemon games
02:25:23 [Pipian](so syachi2ds is fixed, among others)
02:25:34 [hhhhhhhh]no
02:25:42 [BarronWaffles]Ah
02:26:40 [Pipian]I’ll swap it in this evening
02:26:43 [vaguerant]I did notice that there don't seem to be any DGamer-enabled games in aluigi's list.
02:26:56 [vaguerant]I'm not sure how those work.
02:27:03 [Pipian]Different system I believe
02:27:16 [Pipian]As suggested by the fact that they haven’t worked for longer than NWC
02:27:17 [Prof9]what's DGamer
02:27:21 [BarronWaffles]I don't think the pal releases had dgamer
02:27:26 [Pipian]Prof9: Disney-specific NWC clone
02:27:28 [mm201]So are you guys still searching on mkds?
02:27:33 [Prof9]oh gross
02:27:35 [Prof9]I remember now
02:27:37 [BarronWaffles]I'm searching worldwide
02:27:38 [vaguerant]Yeah, it was dumb.
02:27:44 [mm201]Okay in I go
02:27:52 [Pipian]mm201: Did you get Battle Video up?
02:27:55 [mm201]!stat
02:27:55 [Sacchi]'mariokartds'
02:28:00 [Prof9]although iirc it had a nifty profile thing
02:28:04 [Pipian]I figured I’d take a look at Battle Subway this evening
02:28:06 [mm201]not yet
02:28:09 [mm201]still working on it
02:28:13 [vaguerant]The profile thing was basically all it was.
02:28:14 [mm201]!stat mariokartds
02:28:14 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 2 players.
02:28:26 [vaguerant]You make your ... shit Disney Mii.
02:28:27 [Prof9]did Spectrobes have it?
02:28:29 [BarronWaffles]I can't seem to connect with you
02:28:38 [vaguerant]Hmm. I don't think so?
02:28:42 [BarronWaffles]I'll just restart my AP
02:28:45 [BarronWaffles]It did in the US
02:28:46 [vaguerant]I think it was limited to licensed games.
02:28:54 [BarronWaffles]I think
02:28:55 [vaguerant]Alice in Wonderland, Tron, Tinkerbell kinda stuff.
02:29:02 [Pipian]In short
02:29:04 [mm201]I have a blinky
02:29:07 [BarronWaffles]That's mee
02:29:08 [Pipian]When it went down, nothing of value was lost
02:29:09 [BarronWaffles]I hope
02:29:12 [vaguerant]Yep.
02:29:14 [mm201]Steve
02:29:18 [BarronWaffles]Mee
02:29:23 [Prof9]oh, the second Spectrobes had DGamer
02:29:35 [Prof9]that must be where I used it
02:29:42 [mm201]oh god sor thumb circuit
02:29:48 [vaguerant]Huh. That sucks.
02:29:55 [Prof9]wheres the save DGamer project?
02:29:57 [vaguerant]Does it have other online features, or just DGamer?
02:30:05 [Pipian]Prof9: That would be in #altdgamer
02:30:06 [Pipian]:v
02:30:08 [Prof9]uh, I think it had DLC? dunno
02:30:14 [Prof9]or was that the first one? or both?
02:30:20 [vaguerant]Spectrobes 2 is on aluigi's list.
02:30:30 [Prof9]I seem to remember watching downloaded trailers on it for some reason
02:30:33 [vaguerant]But other DGamer games aren't, so I assume it has something.
02:31:12 [Prof9]Spectrobes was pretty dope, I should replay it sometime
02:31:26 [vaguerant]I've only played the Wii one, but that was super nice.
02:31:42 [mm201]Please don't do that to my hand again
02:31:43 [BarronWaffles]Snake? Snake!?! SNAKEEEE!?!?!
02:31:46 [Prof9]only played the DS ones, though I have a Wii now
02:32:42 [vaguerant]On the subject of Spectrobes for Wii ...
02:32:45 [vaguerant]Spectrobes 2 Wii spectro2wii KgKm2x
02:33:09 [vaguerant]There was only one Spectrobes on Wii ... and it was the third entry in the series, so that's not what the 2 is for.
02:33:21 [vaguerant]Maybe there was a fourth Spectrobes planned? With online?
02:34:02 [mm201]oh hey I can still sort of PRB this
02:34:17 [BarronWaffles]Goddamn, my wrists already kills me
02:34:26 [BarronWaffles]You snake like a gawd
02:34:29 [vaguerant]The released Spectrobes on Wii had no online as I recall.
02:34:31 [mm201]Let's try courses that don't kill my thumb
02:35:07 [Pipian]!stat DS
02:35:07 [Sacchi]No one is using a game like "DS"
02:35:10 [Pipian]!stat
02:35:10 [Sacchi]No one is online
02:35:42 [Prof9]hm, Spectrobes is a Disney IP?
02:35:49 [Sev]Hello, have a problem with FIFA 11 Ds I got disconnect as soon I connect to the wifi menu, then I got the error 98020 can someone help me?
02:35:49 [Prof9]wonder why they haven't crammed it into Kingdom Hearts yet
02:35:51 [Pipian]Bah, want to test the console search
02:37:07 [Pipian]Although technically the only ones that benefit from that are the Wiiware games
02:37:22 [BarronWaffles]Goddamn
02:37:25 [mm201]well
02:37:27 [BarronWaffles]Where is Nagato
02:37:29 [BarronWaffles]I need to win
02:37:35 [mm201]D:
02:37:35 [Prof9]console search?
02:37:39 [Pipian]Oh
02:37:43 [Pipian]With the new field
02:37:44 [Prof9]do you mean DS-to-Wii connections?
02:37:52 [Pipian]No
02:38:03 [Pipian]I meant the second column in vaguerant’s gslist variant
02:38:19 [Pipian]Technically it won’t actually behave any different except for *ware games
02:38:28 [Pipian]Since all gamecodes already had the console name in them
02:38:37 [Prof9]not all of them, right?
02:38:43 [Pipian]No, pretty much all of them
02:38:47 [Prof9]oh, you're right
02:38:51 [vaguerant]Some had ultra-long titles that got cropped.
02:39:00 [Pipian]In the game codes though?
02:39:05 [vaguerant]That's why I missed some of the games out in my earliest list.
02:39:12 [vaguerant]Yeah, the codes all have them as far as I can tell.
02:39:42 [Prof9]so /.*ds(am)?$/ then?
02:39:51 [BarronWaffles]Bwhaaha
02:39:53 [mm201]Wow
02:39:55 [BarronWaffles]Finally
02:39:58 [mm201]such mushrooms very fast
02:39:59 [mm201]wow
02:40:16 [vaguerant]Incidentally, Tetris Party Deluxe is in the DSiWare section, but the retail cart uses the same code.
02:40:16 [mm201]Quitting in the hopes of getting more players
02:40:20 [BarronWaffles]Mmm
02:40:20 [vaguerant]It's available as both.
02:40:22 [BarronWaffles]!stats
02:40:26 [BarronWaffles]!stat
02:40:27 [Sacchi]'mariokartds'
02:40:41 [BarronWaffles]!stat mariokartds
02:40:41 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 2 players.
02:40:49 [Pipian]Actually Prof9
02:40:52 [Prof9]what happened to just going to the gamestats page
02:40:54 [Pipian]It’s dumber than that
02:41:01 [Pipian]It’s literally just a keyword filter
02:41:14 [mm201]I guess I'll go back to making the battle video server since this is sort of a curb stomp
02:41:14 [Pipian]For each entry on the stats page, look up it’s name
02:41:16 [Prof9]what, .*(ds).*?
02:41:28 [BarronWaffles]Hey, I won a single match
02:41:32 [mm201]\o
02:41:37 [Pipian]Then for each token in the query, check to see if either the name or the code (or now, the category) contains the token
02:41:39 [BarronWaffles]It's a very gentle curb stomp
02:41:40 [Pipian]No regex involved
02:41:45 [BarronWaffles]With love
02:42:10 [Pipian]I mean
02:42:15 [Pipian]Why get any more complicated than that?
02:42:36 [Prof9]but regex is easier
02:42:42 [Pipian](It’s also why a console search worked fine before, because every code had DS or Wii in it. Only the *ware games would break)
02:42:57 [Pipian]I guess technically that’s true, since it’s anchored at the end
02:43:01 [einstein95]!stat
02:43:01 [Sacchi]'mariokartds', 'mariokartwii'
02:43:02 [Pipian]But ehh
02:43:09 [vaguerant](There's also a few "dsi" games.)
02:43:10 [mm201]We need to do some skype races some time
02:43:38 [Pipian]But yes, it’s a really dumb search
02:43:40 [vaguerant]And one "dsw".
02:43:50 [Pipian]I’d expand the names that Sacchi returns with !stat
02:44:04 [Pipian]But those might be annoying for many of the longer-name games
02:44:27 [mm201]A proper site would probably make things easier
02:44:37 [Pipian]No doubt
02:44:55 [mm201]_!stat without a game name would probably be unnessary with a good site
02:45:03 [Pipian]Plus mm201, a proper site could have APIs to see what’s on the GTS in Pokemon for example
02:45:29 [mm201]I plan on putting more details in the fGTS site anyway
02:45:50 [Pipian]I’d be happy to review
02:45:53 [einstein95]<Pipian> But yes, it’s a really dumb search <- Not as dumb as mine
02:46:38 [Pipian]Like I’ve said, I’m reluctant to write code
02:46:48 [Pipian]But I can help out reviewing code and making suggestions
02:46:52 [Pipian]Though I know those are a dime a dozen
02:47:02 [vaguerant]This is probably at best a temporary solution anyway.
02:47:05 [Pipian](If it weren’t for legal issues, bah)
02:47:22 [mm201]There are very few ways to get wrong what I'm doing
02:47:27 [Pipian]It’s very true
02:47:31 [Pipian]Most of it is just storage and DB
02:47:34 [mm201]basically by deviating from the spec and that's about it
02:47:53 [mm201]Oh yeah I did forget to add indexes to my DB
02:48:01 [mm201]I was in too much of a hurry to make it work
02:48:03 [Pipian]Now let me pull off those PCAP files and start looknig into Battle Subway
02:48:08 [mm201]one search is slow atm
02:48:16 [mm201](the _finish.asp requests)
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02:49:55 [Pipian]Ahaha
02:49:56 [Pipian]what
02:50:04 [Pipian]“McDonald’s DS Crew Development Program"
02:50:24 [Pipian]Did McDonald’s seriously use Nintendo DSs to train McDonald’s employees?
02:50:27 [einstein95]Pipian: Yeah, Mcdonalds JP had a DS training cart
02:50:29 [Pipian]Because that is what I read into that :v
02:50:35 [Pipian]That’s crazy
02:50:41 [mm201]That's amazing, do share inb4 piracy
02:51:21 [mm201]Were staff issued a DS or something if they didn't have one?
02:51:35 [Pikachu025]you assume that there are people in japan without a ds
02:51:42 [mm201]basically but still
02:52:08 [Pipian]Awright, les’ pull up that Battle Subway PCAP
02:52:36 [Pipian]And where I saved that 20GB of videos of my DS :v
02:52:38 [FleshVortex]has anyone ever solved how the Star Rating system works in mk7?
02:52:54 [mm201]I didn't know it had a star rating
02:53:09 [mm201]also 3DS is outside the scope of this project
02:53:19 [vaguerant]McDonald's stores were issues two DSes, mm201.
02:53:25 [einstein95]FleshVortex: It works, that's how it works
02:53:28 [vaguerant]They used the training tool in-store, not at home.
02:53:31 [Prof9]oh, found an NDS fullset torrent
02:53:35 [Prof9]time to bust out the external HDD
02:53:43 [mm201]I was being facetious
02:53:48 [mm201]I'm not really interested in it
02:54:05 [mm201]maybe a youtube
02:54:16 [vaguerant]I'd play the hell out of it.
02:54:21 [mm201]"play"
02:54:44 [mm201]They could totally make an accurate mcdonalds simulator and give it to staff to take home as training
02:54:53 [BarronWaffles]The horror
02:56:34 [vaguerant]Like in that one ... shit, somebody help me out ... Roger ...
02:56:40 [vaguerant]The old adventure games?
02:56:42 [vaguerant]Space Quest!
02:56:47 [vaguerant]Is that right?
02:57:22 [vaguerant]Early in the game you could get a job working at a burger shop.
02:57:39 [vaguerant]And you'd actually get in-game currency, $1 per burger or something.
02:57:48 [vaguerant]The game would speed up after each burger.
02:58:06 [vaguerant]So at some point you'd hit the Turbo button and play twice as long as you could otherwise. :V
02:59:06 [Prof9]oh no, I think my external HDD finally died
02:59:33 [Prof9]oh nope it was just the USB port
02:59:41 [Prof9]I swear this thing never dies
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03:07:45 [Genosync]whew
03:07:56 [Genosync]made a document for my brawl peoples to get on altwfc with their wii for brawl
03:08:03 [Genosync]again
03:08:04 [Team_Fail]i really wish my 3ds could read my action replay dsi
03:08:06 [Team_Fail]but nope
03:08:08 [Genosync]because the previous one sucked :(
03:08:27 [Genosync]https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhyth38tbn3v3pq/brawlAltWFC.doc
03:08:28 [Sacchi]Dropbox - brawlAltWFC.doc
03:08:31 [Team_Fail]oh well, i'm gonna get MK Wii and play it for a bit, get used to the game, then head online
03:08:33 [Genosync]thx sacchi <3
03:08:33 [vaguerant]Table Game Stadium (D3-Yuki) (Wii) tablegamestds Tk2MJq
03:08:40 [Prof9].doc
03:08:42 [vaguerant]Is this a DS game or a Wii game. :V
03:08:58 [FinkMac]Animal Crossing Wild World worky?
03:09:57 [Junk]back
03:10:02 [Junk]real wii on basic brawl
03:10:04 [Junk]mpw
03:10:06 [Junk]now
03:13:43 [Genosync]!stat
03:13:43 [Sacchi]'smashbrosxwii'
03:13:47 [Genosync]!stat smashbrosxwii
03:13:47 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
03:13:52 [Genosync]guessing that's you, junk
03:14:06 [Junk]yes
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03:17:37 [Genosync]tried joining
03:17:40 [Genosync]but it's not connecting us
03:17:44 [Genosync]!stat smashbrosxwii
03:17:44 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 2 players.
03:17:54 [Genosync]if you want to play, can just trade FCs
03:18:00 [Genosync]oh
03:18:01 [Genosync]it d/c'd us.
03:18:06 [Junk]yeah
03:18:38 [Genosync]test with FC?
03:18:46 [Junk]it wirks with fc
03:18:46 [Genosync]2534-0307-1748
03:18:51 [Junk]even on dolphin
03:18:53 [Genosync]foranyone worked for me and bob the other day
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03:20:10 [Junk]1717-9869-3125
03:21:51 [Genosync]added
03:23:24 [Junk]added
03:24:05 [Genosync]reloading wifi since it didn't update
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03:24:12 [Genosync]still shows waiting
03:24:13 [Genosync]weird
03:24:30 [Genosync]there it goes
03:24:50 [Genosync]86420
03:24:55 [Genosync]might need to make your wii DMZhost on your router
03:25:39 [Genosync]either that or let me host
03:25:46 [Genosync]if it does it again
03:25:56 [Genosync]yeah, let me host
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03:28:24 [Genosync]Junk?
03:28:28 [einstein95]Genosync: If that guide is for Brawl, why does it have "Overwrite your current GCT file for Mario Kart Wii (if you have one)"
03:28:37 [Junk]yes
03:28:41 [Genosync]let me host
03:28:56 [Genosync]because I threw it in there just so it gets the people that want to play MK Wii on
03:28:59 [Genosync]I should go update that
03:29:52 [Genosync]updated
03:30:27 [Genosync]Junk: have you tried joining my room yet
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04:08:28 [Genosync]ggs
04:10:42 [Junk]friends fine
04:10:56 [Junk]just basic sreach isn't working really
04:11:01 [Junk]search
04:16:20 [Genosync]it does work
04:16:24 [Genosync]you just have problems hosting
04:16:30 [Genosync]because of your router settings probably
04:16:39 [Genosync]you need to open up your wii to the 'net through your router settings
04:17:16 [Genosync]you gotta make your wii's IP the DMZhost
04:17:18 [Genosync]and that will fix it
04:17:31 [Genosync]or, annoying port forwarding that's a pain in the ass to set up, at least in my eyes
04:24:39 [vaguerant]What are those hash things in the game list, anyway?
04:24:58 [vaguerant]Yakuman Wii (WiiWare),yakumanwii,vcBUtC <--
04:25:49 [Pipian]They are used for Peerchat encryption
04:25:52 [Pipian]And I think that’s the only thing
04:26:00 [Pipian]Which basically means Pokemon Platinum uses it and that’s it
04:26:04 [vaguerant]Is that something that ...
04:26:08 [vaguerant]There's my answer.
04:26:17 [Pipian]Oh
04:26:19 [Pipian]Excuse me
04:26:44 [Pipian]It’s also used for the client’s challenge-response UDP packet to the master server
04:26:52 [Pipian]But we don’t really care about validating that so it’s a moot point
04:27:26 [Pipian]It’s nominally used in game setup
04:27:31 [Pipian]But I don’t know if the game actually checks that
04:27:39 [Pipian]Matchmaking I mean
04:31:24 [vaguerant]So how do I make a Google Docs. I'm lost.
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04:32:53 [einstein95]vaguerant: https://drive.google.com/ then click "CREATE>Spreadsheet"
04:32:54 [Sacchi]Redirecting...
04:33:46 [einstein95]Then click "Share"vwhen you want others to edit, etc.
04:37:22 [einstein95]Heading home, back later
04:37:36 [vaguerant]https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_0-RcMKB33cSmx2czh1YU9Sakk/edit
04:37:37 [Sacchi]prprname.xls - Google Drive
04:37:56 [vaguerant]I don't get how you edit it.
04:41:27 [einstein95]Edit the sharing settings under "Share"?
04:41:39 [vaguerant]It's set so that anyone can edit it.
04:42:00 [vaguerant]"Anyone who has the link can edit"
04:43:38 [einstein95]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cWTle-u5odfGEFkSc5sOUcaT5ywWl1HBM-_qAS0AkYU/edit#gid=0 I got this which is set to anybody, so I dunno
04:43:39 [Sacchi]Untitled spreadsheet - Google Sheets
04:47:26 [vaguerant]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av0-RcMKB33cdE4xbFJJeVZpYnpXTldYOFJVSFdZSWc&usp=sharing
04:47:27 [Sacchi]Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free.
04:47:50 [vaguerant]I had to import the spreadsheet rather than just upload it.
04:47:59 [einstein95]Heh
04:49:13 [einstein95]Anyway, heading home now
04:49:19 [vaguerant]Have fun.
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05:16:39 [Junk]@weather ria
05:16:45 [Junk]rip
05:16:49 [Junk]derp
05:17:01 [Junk]&loli
05:17:04 [Junk]&lilli
05:17:15 [Junk]nevermind
05:17:21 [Junk]wrong channel and network
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05:30:26 [Pipian]How do you do that
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05:44:28 [Junk]what
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06:04:47 [BarronWaffles]Got your DS einstein95?
06:04:54 [einstein95]Yep
06:05:21 [BarronWaffles]Nice
06:05:27 [BarronWaffles]Feel like trying to play something soon?
06:05:29 [einstein95]I'll try and get online later today, would need to change to WEP and other people are using the internet
06:05:43 [BarronWaffles]Ahh
06:05:44 [BarronWaffles]Ok
06:05:45 [einstein95]Also, I think I stuffed my SD card
06:05:49 [BarronWaffles]?
06:06:12 [einstein95]All of a sudden, inserting it hangs SDFormatter and Explorer
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06:20:12 [einstein95]Apparently my phone likes the SD card more than my laptop
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06:33:55 [einstein95]Ah, got laptop to format it: Insert into phone, mount via USB, format, remove from phone, insert into computer, format (not necessary, but staying safe)
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06:37:48 [Noir|work]morning
06:37:55 [einstein95]Morning
06:38:11 [Noir|work]any relevant news?
06:39:00 [einstein95]Not that I can see
06:39:38 [Noir|work]So no bad news, that's positive. ;)
06:44:48 [vaguerant]Any Harvest Moon nerds in here?
06:44:51 [vaguerant]Bokujyo Monogatari Himawari Shoto wa Oosawagi
06:45:24 [vaguerant]No game by this name seems to exist, it probably was renamed during development. Anyone able to guess which of the literally four thousand Harvest Moon games on DS this is?
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06:48:49 [einstein95]牧場 物語 ひまわり 書と は 大騒ぎ for your Japanese pleasure :P (no, I don't now what game it is)
06:48:54 [einstein95]*know
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06:54:26 [vaguerant]I think it must be Sunshine Islands, the third (??) Harvest Moon game.
06:55:38 [vaguerant]The Japanese game had wifi, it was removed for international versions.
06:55:47 [einstein95]The prerelease title mentions a Book of Sunflowers or something
07:14:10 [vaguerant]How's your DS?
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07:18:29 [einstein95]It's good, wooddumper r85 seems to freeze with a white screen when I try and dump a game
07:23:22 [Noir|work]i'm using rudolph's dumper, never had a problem so far, it's damn slow via WiFi, but it works. dumping with a GBA flashcart is incredible fast, SuperCard CF being the fastest
07:23:55 [einstein95]Yeah, might try Rudolph's next
07:27:06 [Noir|work]setting it up is more complicated than wood's, there's a tut on gbatemp which explains everything. don't forget to edit the .ini provided with the dumper.
07:31:04 [vaguerant]einstein95: Wifi version of Wood, I assume?
07:31:10 [einstein95]Yep
07:31:28 [vaguerant]Hmm. Wonder what its deal is.
07:32:18 [Normmatt]* Normmatt only has the sources to wooddumper r77 :(
07:36:26 [vaguerant]OK uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgh. I've now done A through C on that spreadsheet.
07:36:35 [vaguerant]There's too many fucking DS games.
07:36:49 [vaguerant]I'm leaving it for the next ... month. :p
07:38:38 [einstein95]Gah, Rudolph's is taking ages at the "FAT Initialize..." screen
07:38:55 [Team_Fail]einstein95: Rudolph's isn't too bad, but with it using WiFi takes for-f-ing-ever
07:38:56 [einstein95]I think the network should be WEP >_<
07:39:04 [Team_Fail]einstein95: it does
07:39:10 [einstein95]Excuse me while I die
07:39:20 [Team_Fail]if i could, i'd modify my r4i savedongle to read roms
07:39:22 [Team_Fail]that'd be cool
07:39:48 [Team_Fail]einstein95: are you on a laptop?
07:39:51 [einstein95]Yep
07:39:59 [Team_Fail]do you have a lan cable nearby?
07:40:28 [einstein95]Yes, I can change my router's connection (even via wifi) but other people are on the internets
07:40:36 [Team_Fail]if you do, why not plug it into your laptop and make a hostednetwork you can connect your ds to?
07:40:48 [Team_Fail]that way, you don't have to toggle your router's settings
07:40:55 [einstein95]I am going to die from beyond the grave now
07:41:05 [einstein95]I'm dead^2
07:41:13 [Team_Fail]overdead
07:41:41 [vaguerant]Buy one of those idiot dongles.
07:41:50 [vaguerant]Didn't they quit selling those at some point?
07:42:06 [Normmatt]<Team_Fail> if i could, i'd modify my r4i savedongle to read roms
07:42:10 [Normmatt]that can be done
07:42:16 [Normmatt]same with powersaves
07:42:33 [einstein95]I will be dis/connecting soon, switching to ethernet
07:42:38 [BarronWaffles]Loads of those dongles on trademe.
07:42:43 [Normmatt]well i know powersaves can just guessing on that r4i save dongle
07:43:16 [einstein95]Normmatt: What benefit does dumping via modded powersave have over dumping via gateway?
07:43:37 [Normmatt]einstein95, you can't dump 3ds roms via powersaves
07:43:44 [Normmatt]so none
07:44:18 [einstein95]Huh? I must have read "[19:42:14] 8<5Normmatt8> same with powersaves" wrong then
07:44:50 [Normmatt]it can be modified to read nds roms
07:45:08 [einstein95]Oooh, NDS ROMs
07:45:13 [einstein95]Gotcha
07:45:39 [Normmatt]* Normmatt really should get around to making a nds/dsi dumper in 3ds mode
07:46:49 [einstein95]Oh, and would it be because my emuNAND is 7.2.0 that I can't run any ROMs via Gateway mode?
07:47:05 [Normmatt]no...
07:47:11 [einstein95]Oh crap
07:47:20 [Normmatt]you just cant enter settings or eshop on 7.2
07:47:55 [einstein95]Okay, so that's why settings won't work.
07:48:35 [Team_Fail]einstein95: Yeah, i'm "waiting" on team GW, although really, i'm not holding my breath
07:48:47 [Team_Fail]Normmatt could probably find a fix faster than they can
07:49:18 [Normmatt]there currently isn't a way to fix it
07:49:41 [Normmatt]it requires a bootrom dump or a hardware ram dumper to work around
07:49:45 [Team_Fail]i was looking at r4isavemore's code, and i'm hoping to turn that into a dumper, but as i'm still rather inexperienced with c#, i don't understand the code
07:50:22 [Team_Fail]Normmatt: So basically a fully functional emunand 7.2 is but a pipe dream at this point in time
07:50:26 [Normmatt]Team_Fail, looking at the protocol for it... you wont be able to turn it into a rom dumper
07:50:49 [Normmatt]powersaves on the otherhand lets you send arbitrary cart commands in nds or 3ds mode
07:50:52 [Team_Fail]i know someone was able to modify it to dump the header instead of the save
07:51:06 [Team_Fail]then again, that's just a tiny portion of the rom
07:51:25 [Team_Fail]although if i could dump carts using my 3ds, that'd be cool
07:51:36 [Team_Fail]or even my dsi, since i have cookhaxx on it
07:51:44 [einstein95]Team_Fail: Done some googling and Windows can only set up a WPA network? I'm needing either unsecured or WEP
07:52:03 [Normmatt]* Normmatt doesnt even know where his cyclods ievo or his cookhaxx cart have gone
07:52:17 [Team_Fail]really? well, you can go unsecured since you can start and stop it whenever you want to
07:52:47 [Team_Fail]the only thing i'm hating about cookhaxx is that i don't have sd access
07:52:51 [Team_Fail]and sound doesn't work at all
07:53:01 [Team_Fail]adjusting the dsi's volume crashes the system
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07:55:05 [Team_Fail]i also doubt that the gw firmware's 3ds rom dumper dumps dsi or nds carts as well
07:55:15 [Team_Fail]it probably does integrity checks or something
07:55:15 [Normmatt]it does not
07:55:15 [einstein95]Nope, it doesn't
07:55:28 [Team_Fail]i feel so SOL atm
07:55:51 [Team_Fail]especially with no reliable way to dump ds roms
07:56:07 [einstein95]I think it does a simple "is valid 3DS header? yes: dump ROM, no: fail"
07:56:13 [Team_Fail]probably
07:56:23 [Prof9]could ask them to add it
07:56:27 [Prof9]probably wouldn't take long
07:56:31 [Team_Fail]if they even release a new version
07:56:51 [Team_Fail]the next version is most likely to be released when they fix thte 7.2 issues
07:56:58 [Normmatt]* Normmatt is waiting for that gbafail noob to release his rom loader
07:56:59 [Team_Fail]*the
07:57:10 [Team_Fail]lol
07:57:25 [Team_Fail]i'd love to see a rom loader, doubt that'll happen soon
07:57:41 [Team_Fail]then i don't need a damn gateway
07:57:42 [Prof9]a rom loader, for gateway...?
07:57:51 [Normmatt]internal sd
07:58:03 [Team_Fail]plus i can get a massive sd card and call it a day
07:58:08 [Normmatt]I could probably make one if i really wanted too
07:58:15 [Team_Fail]back up all my games and whatnot
07:58:20 [Prof9]I just want a homebrew channel really
07:58:24 [Team_Fail]so i don't need to stuff my case
07:58:26 [Prof9]I have like 18 3DS games
07:58:31 [einstein95]So you have to use a GW to load games from the internal SD, rather than that SD you have in the cart?
07:58:33 [Team_Fail]i have the Club Nintendo case
07:58:37 [Team_Fail]and it's full of DS games
07:58:39 [Prof9]yeah I have two of those
07:58:47 [Team_Fail]having that on my 3ds sd card would be a-maz-ing
07:58:49 [Prof9]really regret not getting a third because my 3DS one is full now
07:59:54 [Team_Fail]i can just imagine: AKAIO 3DS
08:01:00 [Team_Fail]also, where was that gbafail noob mentioning this?
08:01:08 [Prof9]I'll take an AR 3DS
08:01:19 [Prof9]hopefully with code types that aren't shit
08:01:37 [Normmatt]Prof9, I was going to port my akaio cheat engine to the 3ds?
08:01:55 [Prof9]:0
08:02:04 [Normmatt]you could help design new code types :P
08:02:05 [Team_Fail]:O
08:02:25 [Prof9]I actually had a wishlist at some point lol
08:02:35 [Prof9]but I posted it on the GBAtemp cheats forum and that's been vaporized
08:03:33 [Prof9]but tbh, all you really need is a custom routine code type
08:03:47 [Prof9]might as well write codes entirely in ASM
08:04:44 [Prof9]so NitroHax code types would probably be sufficient
08:06:03 [Prof9]hopefully my ARDSi will be here soon
08:06:14 [Prof9]should come in at most 85 minutes from now
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08:08:40 [Prof9]Norm, would it work with DS games or 3DS games or both?
08:09:48 [Prof9]oh speak of the devil
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08:11:42 [vaguerant]All right, I did up to E now.
08:14:25 [Prof9]this thing is really unwieldly
08:15:14 [vaguerant]Which thing.
08:15:19 [Prof9]ARDS
08:16:27 [Prof9]looks like it works... maybe?
08:16:31 [Prof9]it just gives a white screen
08:18:03 [Prof9]now that I think about it
08:18:03 [Prof9]maybe I should've just asked them for a free one
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08:22:51 [matt123337]I miss anything for the day I was gone guys?
08:29:17 [vaguerant]I started the world's most boring spreadsheet.
08:30:18 [vaguerant]Someone should hassle Datel to release some kind of "Action Replay Wi-Fi" which includes NoSSL codes.
08:33:18 [einstein95]vaguerant: "Harlequin Bunko" would be that Japanese Harlequin 100 Classic Books thing
08:34:18 [vaguerant]Oh, that's good, I had no idea what that was.
08:34:51 [vaguerant]Otona no Renai Shousetsu - DS Harlequin Selection (Japan) [b]
08:35:08 [einstein95]Yep
08:36:03 [Prof9]ughhhhh
08:36:08 [Prof9]ARDS drivers are unsigned
08:36:15 [Prof9]great job Datel
08:36:47 [matt123337]I hate RBC
08:37:08 [matt123337]Just made a payment on credit card, yet my Availible credit hasn't changed
08:38:28 [matt123337]and now this: http://puu.sh/94y1G/1963f3a4c7.png
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08:41:13 [soio]Have a nice day !!!!!
08:42:07 [vaguerant]* vaguerant pratfalls.
08:45:32 [Noir|work]Team_Fail: is modifying the save dongle possible without major rev. engineering? is there a known mod?
08:46:16 [einstein95]"Spore (DS)" would be Spore Creatures, just need to see if it applies to all regions
08:46:54 [Noir|work]sorry, nevermind, didn't scroll down, you already discussed that
08:49:40 [vaguerant]Yeah, I was assuming it was Creatures.
08:49:43 [vaguerant]I liked that game.
08:50:11 [vaguerant]I'm not sure which game "fireemblemds" is.
08:50:22 [vaguerant]There's two of them, and they both have online.
08:51:03 [Prof9]I think 12iron was Fire Emblem 12
08:54:44 [vaguerant]Oh, that makes sense. 1+2.
08:55:12 [Prof9]?
08:55:29 [Prof9]Gamespy lists it as a game from 2010 developed by IS and published by Nintendo
08:55:46 [vaguerant]The "12". Monshou no Nazo is Fire Emblem 1 and 2.
08:56:14 [Prof9]ohh
08:56:40 [Prof9]I read it's the twelfth Fire Emblem entry
08:56:49 [vaguerant]I guess it works both ways.
08:58:32 [einstein95]Yep, Sonic Colors is sonic2010ds.63ckbN
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09:02:37 [vaguerant]All right, done through F.
09:02:50 [vaguerant]You know, besides the ones that aren't done.
09:03:40 [Prof9]it's the thought that counts
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09:11:29 [vaguerant]Done through G, although I don't know what those "Girls" games are.
09:12:18 [einstein95]"Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harverst Moon (EU) (DS)" hehe, "harverst"
09:18:23 [einstein95]"Winx Club - Secret Diary 2009" is just a European licensed version of "Diary Girl"
09:19:20 [einstein95]vaguerant: Found one missing from the list: girlssecEUds....nySkKx
09:19:38 [vaguerant]Huh, interesting.
09:21:27 [einstein95]It's on aluigi's list sorry, "Winx Club Secret Diary 2009 (EU) (DS) girlssecEUds nySkKx"
09:21:30 [vaguerant]Wait, that's not missing.
09:21:40 [vaguerant]Yeah. It's also on the spreadsheet I'm working on.
09:22:24 [einstein95]Yeah, fixed
09:23:23 [einstein95]Got to wonder how "Girls Secret Diary" became "Diary Girl" which became a licensed Winx app
09:25:42 [vaguerant]Oh, they're the same thing?
09:25:50 [vaguerant]I actually have that Diary Girl game. :V
09:26:21 [vaguerant]It has a voice chat app, I used it as a low-rent DS Skype.
09:26:58 [einstein95]Haha
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09:37:32 [Prof9]how did you get anyone else to buy it
09:37:37 [einstein95]I have wasted most of my time: You can skip the Picross DS tutorial
09:41:16 [BarronWaffles]Sure thing vaguerant, you Winx Club addict
09:41:29 [BarronWaffles]You were probably chatting with my sister on it.
09:41:42 [vaguerant]Prof9: My girlfriend at the time.
09:42:24 [BarronWaffles]It all makes sense now...
09:42:37 [einstein95]vaguerant: I got wooddumper to work, just needed to save my connection settings >_<
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09:43:24 [vaguerant]Hahaha, whoops. Glad to hear it.
09:43:30 [Prof9]and Skype wasn't a cheaper alternative?
09:47:20 [vaguerant]I didn't have a laptop or smartphone at the time, so if I wanted to Skype I had to be at my PC.
09:47:47 [vaguerant]Any FF4 nerds in here?
09:48:18 [vaguerant]There's a server in the list, "Kaihatsushitsu".
09:48:44 [vaguerant]Apparently this means "Developer's Office" and is a secret area in all versions of Final Fantasy IV.
09:49:08 [vaguerant]Does FF4 DS have online that's related to this somehow?
09:52:51 [BarronWaffles]http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Developer%27s_Office_%28Final_Fantasy_IV_DS%29
09:53:43 [einstein95]"There is no WiFi in Final Fantasy IV. However, if you and a friend both have a DS and a FFIV game cartridge, then you can battle each others Whyt via the wireless connection."
09:56:19 [Prof9]when I google kaihatsushitsu some kind of gay manga comes up
09:57:35 [einstein95]"Adult na Kaihatsushitsu (The Exploration of Adulthood)" from "Ashika Sakura [who] has done numerous manga under the yaoi and shotacon genre, including Sensitive Pornograph."
09:58:27 [einstein95]This has been "Did I really need to know that?" with einstein95
09:59:08 [Prof9]that reminds me when I had to look up a Japanese concept the other day and could only find an explanation in a yaoi fanfiction
09:59:38 [BarronWaffles]What the poop was the concept?
09:59:41 [Prof9]it wasn't even remotely related to love either
09:59:56 [Prof9]Tsuukou tegata
10:00:05 [Prof9]some kind of old passport
10:10:51 [vaguerant]Mostly done through K. I skipped the James Bond games, I'll have to check which is which.
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10:18:31 [Prof9]how do you check, anyway? just start it up and connect to altwfc?
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10:20:27 [vaguerant]Yeah. It's probably also possible to just search for the string in the ROM, though.
10:20:50 [Prof9]well, if you don't know what you're looking for
10:20:52 [einstein95]Yeah, it's in arm9
10:21:09 [Prof9]is it?
10:21:16 [einstein95]Yep
10:21:38 [einstein95]All the Civ Revs are the same, yet there's meant to be an "Asia" version
10:22:07 [vaguerant]Could be some obscure Chinese/HK version that nobody's dumped or something.
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10:22:26 [Prof9]there are tons of games that haven't been dumped I believe
10:23:12 [einstein95]Yeah, although a new iQue game showing up is unlikely
10:23:22 [vaguerant]Hahaha, iQue.
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10:26:22 [soio]Back again
10:27:25 [einstein95]!stat
10:27:25 [Sacchi]'mariokartds'
10:27:36 [einstein95]!stat mar
10:27:36 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 2 players.
10:34:56 [Noir|work]stupid L button not working again
10:35:20 [BarronWaffles]!stat
10:35:20 [Sacchi]'mariokartds'
10:35:29 [BarronWaffles]!stat mar
10:35:29 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 1 player.
10:36:12 [einstein95]My DS ran out of power :(
10:36:30 [BarronWaffles]Damn
10:36:39 [BarronWaffles]Plug it in!
10:36:47 [einstein95]It is!
10:37:04 [BarronWaffles]I'm searching worldwide
10:39:08 [einstein95]Hopefully this works or the router's about to learn the word "defenestrate"
10:39:29 [BarronWaffles]Looks like it's trying to connect
10:39:40 [BarronWaffles]I'll restart my AP
10:43:09 [einstein95]I'm going to set up some port fowarding
10:44:52 [BarronWaffles]Rgr, tell me when your ready
10:45:31 [einstein95]Ok, done
10:47:16 [einstein95]Ah, wait
10:47:17 [vaguerant]What does it mean when a game doesn't have one of those encryption keys at all?
10:50:35 [einstein95]My router doesn't wan to assign 1-65535 to UDP
10:52:23 [BarronWaffles]1 - 65534
10:55:52 [einstein95]Done that and still "The port configuration of the game or application conflicts with an already assigned game & application. Assigning this game or application is not possible."
10:56:13 [Junk]is that ff IV server online?
10:56:26 [Junk]the devs office
10:57:11 [BarronWaffles]Let's just try again anyway
10:57:14 [vaguerant]It doesn't seem to be an online feature at all, the server is probably unrelated to FF4.
10:57:43 [vaguerant]Does Mario Kart DS's Korean version really use a separate server?
10:57:49 [einstein95]Hold on, I'm deleting configs. it wouldn't assign the profile to the ds anyway
10:58:07 [vaguerant]"mariokartkods"
10:58:10 [BarronWaffles]kk
10:58:11 [vaguerant]Seems dickish.
10:59:15 [einstein95]Mario Kart KODs
11:00:04 [vaguerant]Korean of Duty.
11:01:13 [einstein95]YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
11:01:28 [einstein95]"Disable UPnP" is what I needed to do
11:03:15 [einstein95]Searching worldwide
11:03:23 [einstein95]!stat
11:03:23 [Sacchi]'mariokartds'
11:03:27 [einstein95]!stat kart
11:03:27 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 1 player.
11:04:05 [BarronWaffles]No dice
11:05:19 [BarronWaffles]Errorr
11:05:27 [einstein95]"86420: A direct connection was attempted with another player but the connection failed. Possible reasons could be firewall, ports or latency."
11:06:21 [BarronWaffles]Have you been able to connect with others?
11:07:00 [einstein95]Nope
11:07:07 [einstein95]Turning "Use Extended Security" off
11:07:53 [vaguerant]I'll jump on MKDS too, in case it improves your odds.
11:08:09 [BarronWaffles]I'll try again
11:08:13 [BarronWaffles]Bed soon
11:08:17 [einstein95]Searching now
11:08:33 [vaguerant]Searching.
11:08:44 [vaguerant]One hit.
11:08:45 [einstein95]\o/
11:09:32 [vaguerant]Two hits.
11:09:39 [BarronWaffles]Still one here
11:09:43 [einstein95]One hit here
11:09:54 [einstein95]Lost the hit :(
11:09:58 [vaguerant]Whoop, back to one.
11:10:01 [vaguerant]And two.
11:10:04 [einstein95]Hit
11:10:04 [BarronWaffles]One hit
11:10:14 [BarronWaffles]Our ISPs must be at war einstein95
11:10:19 [einstein95]:o
11:10:33 [einstein95]The Battle of Vaguerant
11:10:41 [einstein95]I got vague
11:10:48 [BarronWaffles]You win
11:11:28 [BarronWaffles]Must be something odd between us.
11:13:53 [einstein95]Get Nagato to check the logs later
11:17:06 [vaguerant]Hahahahahahaha. That was the blue-shell-iest race I've ever had.
11:19:38 [einstein95]Curse you snaking bastard
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11:23:19 [vaguerant]Yeah, Figure 8 circuit is the only track I ever sat and time trialed for hours, so I can snake there.
11:23:26 [vaguerant]Otherwise I suck at it. :V
11:24:22 [einstein95]Now that that problem is solved, I better head to bed. Might put up my findings on the wiki later, although I wonder if it's only the "Use Extended Security" setting.
11:24:39 [vaguerant]All right, night.
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11:40:27 [einstein95]g'night
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11:49:41 [Nagato]einstein|sleep, what am i looking for?
11:50:13 [Nagato][07:05:11] <einstein95> "86420: A direct connection was attempted with another player but the connection failed. Possible reasons could be firewall, ports or latency."
11:50:15 [Nagato]that i guess?
11:51:55 [Nagato]i don't see any issues in the server logs. i'm guessing it was a latency thing
11:54:18 [vaguerant]Yeah, Barron and einstein weren't able to connect.
11:54:43 [vaguerant]I have trouble connecting to Barron in some games too, could be something on his end.
11:54:46 [Nagato]i'm not sure what the issue is then. everything looks fine on the server end, so i'm guessing it was an issue between networks
11:54:59 [Nagato]i sometimes have trouble connecting to barron too, so it very well could be him
11:55:25 [Nagato]i'm sure the official servers do something more fancy to make things work better, but i have no idea what :\
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12:00:13 [Pikachu025]do we have any kind of nat punchthrough implemented?
12:05:51 [Nagato]as far as i understand port punching, that's literally all natneg does
12:06:36 [Nagato]both clients tell the server what port they are listening on for a connection, and natneg tells each client what the ip and port to connect to
12:06:42 [Pikachu025]then i'm not really sure what more fancy thing you could do
12:07:01 [Nagato]i don't think there's anything i can do to force both clients' routers to make sure the port is open
12:07:10 [Nagato]i just relay the information given from the clients
12:07:29 [Nagato]somehow the official servers have more success at it though
12:09:10 [Pikachu025](also it's a little bit more involved then just claiming you're listening on a port but yeah http://www.raknet.net/raknet/manual/natpunchthrough.html)
12:09:10 [Sacchi]404 Not Found
12:09:56 [Nagato]what can i do though on the server side, though?
12:10:12 [Pikachu025]probably not much
12:10:33 [Nagato]as far as i know the gamespy natneg server has 3 modes
12:12:24 [Nagato]Is the server behind the same NAT as I am? If so this is a LAN game and no negotiation is necessary.
12:12:24 [Nagato]Is the server not behind a NAT and allows direct connections? If so, then I can directly connect to the public IP of the server w/o negotiation
12:12:24 [Nagato]Else, in all other cases, use NAT Negotiation. Note: NAT Negotiation will always work in every scenario, so when in doubt use it. The reason for this "check" is to cut down on the number of negotiations required to speed up client-server connections.
12:12:32 [Nagato]those
12:12:39 [Nagato]i think all DS/Wii games set the nat flag though
12:13:04 [Nagato]and that's client side
12:13:17 [Nagato]so i would only worry about the last bit i guess
12:14:28 [Nagato]maybe the official server sends a message asking for a new port or something
12:14:38 [Nagato]if it failed the first time
12:14:53 [Pikachu025]Worth a shot I suppose.
12:16:51 [Nagato]will have to look through some packet dumps later i guess
12:24:47 [vaguerant]"Open Season (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It,Sv,No,Da,Fi)". More languages, please.
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13:13:07 [serpe]!stat smashbrosxwii
13:13:07 [Sacchi]smashbrosxwii has 1 player.
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13:15:31 [Italy]Hi
13:15:49 [Committee]Hello and thank you for chatting
13:16:11 [Committee]For the operator press ALT+F4
13:16:13 [Committee]:D
13:17:41 [Italy]Mariokart ds not work
13:17:58 [Committee]did you patch using the specific Mario Kart patch?
13:18:05 [Italy]Code error 84020
13:18:25 [Italy]Yes i using patch
13:19:28 [vaguerant]84020, that's the one when qr stops responding, isn't it, Nagato?
13:19:40 [Committee]Hai usato il nossl Patch della specifica Mario Kart Patch?
13:19:49 [Italy]Si
13:19:54 [Committee]bueno
13:20:31 [serpe]hi/ciao
13:21:08 [mib_cz83l2]lol Committee
13:22:01 [Italy]Server down?
13:22:25 [vaguerant]Italy knows what he's doing he's been playing since right after the official WFC went down.
13:22:32 [vaguerant]+,
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13:23:46 [Committee]:D
13:23:59 [vaguerant]Counted to 28 before I got 84020'd.
13:24:12 [vaguerant]I think it's the same bug, qr has given up.
13:29:40 [mib_cz83l2]Nagato, could u publicly advertise this altwfc, for more people to join ?
13:29:43 [mib_cz83l2]i*
13:36:31 [serpe]someone was able to play brawl with friend codes?
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13:54:15 [Italy]Reset server?
13:54:32 [Italy]Mkds not work
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14:06:14 [vaguerant]More like Skylanders: Crap Team.
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14:08:41 [vaguerant]Wow, the next Skylanders is coming to /Wii/.
14:09:10 [vaguerant]Let's place bets as to whether it'll have online play. :p
14:14:55 [Team_Fail]if it did, that'd be very surprising
14:15:02 [Team_Fail]especially for a now-legacy system
14:18:51 [vaguerant]More especially for a system which just had its wifi servers shut down.
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14:24:01 [Nagato]vaguerant, it looks like it
14:24:08 [Nagato]i'm going to try debugging the server this time
14:24:21 [Nagato]so altwfc will be down for a while i guess
14:24:22 [Nagato]sorry guys
14:25:23 [vaguerant]* vaguerant paraphrases: A down server is eventually up. An up server is broken forever.
14:25:56 [Nagato]it looks like it stopped working at 8:11:11
14:26:11 [Nagato]someone trying to play winning eleven 13 on the wii
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14:41:25 [Matador]!stat mariokartds
15:26:14 [Sacchi]mariokartds has 4 players.
15:26:14 [Nagato]the server is down
15:26:14 [Matador]ok thanks
15:26:14 [vaguerant]Maybe the bot should have a message for failure, too.
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15:26:14 [mm201]You should get your bot --ninja
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15:26:14 [vaguerant]Hehehehehe. :)
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