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| 04:36:18 [Pipian] | And now of course people are starting to see that, no, Ars Technica was right and the initial high scores were typical game-news review inflation |
| 04:42:30 [Pipian] | Ahahaha |
| 04:42:31 [Pipian] | Wow |
| 04:42:43 [Pipian] | "I just called Amazon and they're telling me that some or all of their keys were rendered invalid by EA due to some server issues and EA is placing the blame on chargebacks and keeps referring people back to Amazon. Supposedly my game should re-appear when EA unfucks themselves." |
| 04:43:27 [Puyopuyo] | So never? |
| 04:43:33 [Pipian] | One would assume |
| 04:43:50 [Pipian] | But glitches and bugs coming out the wazoo at this point |
| 04:44:31 [Pipian] | Stacking buildings, weird terrain glitches, suspicions that the system is actually just DRM and not actually online processing, shitty agent design, etc. |
| 04:44:38 [Puyopuyo] | It is just DRM. |
| 04:44:49 [Puyopuyo] | Someone from Maxis pretty much said "they could patch in an offline mode" |
| 04:44:58 [Puyopuyo] | Given that sims are failing the traveling salesmen problem... |
| 04:45:03 [Pipian] | It's telling that the Sim City 4 thread keeps getting bumped above the Sim City thread in these game discussion forums |
| 04:45:56 [Pipian] | Well that's NP-complete anyway so I wouldn't expect them to solve that |
| 04:46:54 [Pipian] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yySa34R0D_4 |
| 04:46:55 [Sacchi] | SimCity | Suicidal Cars? :: 1:02 :: ★★★★★ :: 11,406 Views :: 258 Ratings |
| 04:47:02 [Pipian] | Three buildings stacked on top of each other |
| 04:47:52 [Pipian] | You can demolish buildings in nearby cities |
| 04:49:01 [Pipian] | "Unless I've misunderstood the GDC slides, the agents really don't know where they're ultimately headed beyond the next targeted intersection, and they just keep following roads until they hit an empty sink." |
| 04:50:18 [Pipian] | I'm pretty sure that even SC2K simulated "pathfinding" better, and that was just dumb cellular automata |
| 04:50:43 [Puyopuyo] | That is pretty much exactly how the agents work. |
| 04:50:50 [Puyopuyo] | They're just like any utility. |
| 04:50:57 [Puyopuyo] | They flood forward until they find a gap, and then they fill it. |
| 04:51:14 [Puyopuyo] | Anyway, I'm falling asleep, so I'm out. Have a good night! |
| 04:51:16 [Pipian] | Well I don't know their definition of agent |
| 04:51:30 [Pipian] | But in theory an agent could plot a path if they actually wanted to |
| 04:51:33 [Pipian] | (It's a loaded term) |
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