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| 01:15:34 [Pipian] | So |
| 01:15:50 [Pipian] | I read all of Gunnerkrigg Court (up to current) :o |
| 01:16:07 [Puyopuyo] | Was it worth it? |
| 01:16:53 [Pipian] | Yes |
| 01:17:00 [Puyopuyo] | Surprising! |
| 01:17:08 [Pipian] | Oh? |
| 01:17:34 [Pipian] | What makes you think that? |
| 01:18:19 [Puyopuyo] | My hatred of webcomics has only grown as of late. |
| 01:19:08 [Pipian] | Well, I certainly don't blame you for that |
| 01:19:18 [Pipian] | There is certainly much to hate in most webcomics |
| 01:19:33 [Pipian] | Homestuck is starting to grate on me |
| 01:20:17 [Puyopuyo] | And it will continue! |
| 01:20:30 [Pipian] | QC I only enjoy as a meaningless piece of fluff (I could probably drop it with no ill effects) |
| 01:20:51 [Pipian] | (Honestly it's more for the schadenfreude I feel for the characters) |
| 01:21:19 [Pipian] | Dr. McNinja is alright and hasn't really steered me wrong. |
| 01:21:35 [nathanbp] | curse you Ian |
| 01:21:41 [Pipian] | Nedroid and Hark! A Vagrant are enjoyable when they update |
| 01:21:50 [nathanbp] | you're the second source of a recommendation for Gunnerkrigg Court I've seen recently |
| 01:21:52 [Pipian] | Well, largely so |
| 01:21:54 [Puyopuyo] | I dropped QC when he introduced the cast of main characters that were racially diverse. |
| 01:21:55 [nathanbp] | now I have to actually read it >_> |
| 01:22:13 [Pipian] | Fair enough. |
| 01:22:21 [Pipian] | I mean, I certainly don't HATE QC |
| 01:22:26 [Puyopuyo] | As I felt that it was not only lazy, but he was already flailing with the cast that he had. |
| 01:22:32 [Pipian] | But I have no reason to LIKE it either. |
| 01:22:42 [Puyopuyo] | Oh, if I hated QC, I'd have to have enough incentive to care about it one way or another. |
| 01:22:51 [Pipian] | But let me put it succinctly |
| 01:22:55 [Puyopuyo] | He just managed to convince me that I simply shouldn't care. |
| 01:22:58 [Pipian] | Neil Gaiman likes Gunnerkrigg Court. |
| 01:23:20 [Pipian] | (This is not what sold me, but it should be a pretty good suggestion that it is good on its own) |
| 01:23:28 [Puyopuyo] | Famous people we respect are entitled to like things of dubious quality. That is a non-argument. |
| 01:23:56 [Puyopuyo] | I think the only webcomic I read regularly that I think embraces how unseriously it should take itself is sinfest. |
| 01:24:10 [Pipian] | It is true Sam |
| 01:24:20 [nathanbp] | I started enjoying SMBC recently |
| 01:24:29 [Puyopuyo] | SMBC is rather hit or miss. |
| 01:24:36 [Puyopuyo] | The writer is a bit of a jerk though. |
| 01:24:38 [nathanbp] | a lot of his backlog is terrible |
| 01:24:44 [Pipian] | But on the other hand, my observation of the comic is such that I can see why he recommends it |
| 01:24:45 [Puyopuyo] | (I really need to stop going to conventions) |
| 01:25:05 [nathanbp] | Oh? because there are webcomics at conventions? |
| 01:25:09 [Puyopuyo] | So I am not a particular fan of Sluggy Freelance. I will read it if really bored, but a lot of the story arcs are dull as far as I'm concerned. |
| 01:25:13 [Pipian] | (It has the same sort of modern-fairy-tale feel as Gaiman's work does) |
| 01:25:14 [Puyopuyo] | But the writer was a legitimately nice guy. |
| 01:25:33 [nathanbp] | I can't stop reading sluggy freelance now |
| 01:25:35 [Puyopuyo] | Met him at NYCC, and he was respectful, even when I stated that I wasn't particularly a fan. |
| 01:25:37 [Pipian] | Let's see |
| 01:25:46 [nathanbp] | Since I've read the whole thing to this point anyways >_< |
| 01:26:11 [Puyopuyo] | And that by itself wins the webcomic a few points from me, because no webcomic writer should be that legitimately reasonable. They're all self-absorbed assholes. They have to be! |
| 01:26:48 [Pipian] | I think that's it. McNinja, QC (for lack of not caring enough to drop it), Homestuck (because I've already seen it through this far and it's not actively terrible), Nedroid (actively humorous), Hark! A Vagrant (only good history/literature-based comic) |
| 01:27:05 [Pipian] | Oh and Gun Show |
| 01:27:11 [Pipian] | Except you would hate it Sam |
| 01:27:15 [nathanbp] | Penny Arcade? |
| 01:27:28 [Puyopuyo] | I read that for the whimsical news posts, not the comic. |
| 01:27:59 [Pipian] | I read Brawl in the Family at one point |
| 01:28:08 [Pipian] | It never made it onto my Delicious bookmarks |
| 01:28:11 [Pipian] | So I stopped following it |
| 01:28:24 [Pipian] | It's really kinda playing out the same thing over and over though |
| 01:28:30 [Pipian] | So I'm okay with having dropped it |
| 01:29:23 [Pipian] | But yeah, that's it for webcomics |
| 01:29:27 [Puyopuyo] | I do follow Brawl in the Family, but that's because I'm okay with it doing the same thing. |
| 01:29:36 [Pipian] | Gunnerkrigg is pretty good though, all things considered |
| 01:29:44 [Pipian] | My read through found nothing objectionable or terrible |
| 01:29:45 [Puyopuyo] | The guy's positive about his webcomics, which is something I'll take over every other gaming webcomic's negativity. |
| 01:29:58 [Pipian] | And a cursory study of the artist seems like he's a decent enough guy. |
| 01:30:09 [Puyopuyo] | I may investigate in the future then. |
| 01:30:13 [Puyopuyo] | For now, I final project. |
| 01:30:19 [Pipian] | By cursory study I mean "I have read a post or two he has made regarding his comic on Something Awful" |
| 01:30:49 [Pipian] | (In doing so, he interacts with his fans in a relatively nice, down to earth manner as far as I can tell) |
| 01:31:11 [Puyopuyo] | Eh, I consider forum friendliness to be different from in person reasonableness. |
| 01:31:15 [Pipian] | (Not like Hussie, if you want me to submit a comparison) |
| 01:31:28 [Pipian] | It is true |
| 01:31:44 [Pipian] | Initial instinct though is that he is /probably/ decent |
| 01:32:46 [Puyopuyo] | One hopes so. |
| 01:39:51 [Pipian] | But yeah, it has a good modern-fantasy feel to it. The setting is obviously aping after Harry Potter with a dash of various Gaiman novels, and you might think that it's just a knockoff in the first few chapters, but if you give it a few chapters you'll find that it's not really, except for superficial similarities in setting. Well, to be fair, the Gaiman-esque dash never really goes away. |
| 01:41:03 [Pipian] | At the very least I'd love to hear your complaints as to why it may not be good. It seems like a thing you will either get into or have some unusual, yet reasonable, reason to (respectfully) dislike it. |
| 01:41:16 [Pipian] | It doesn't strike me as a thing you would dismiss out of hand at the very least. |
| 01:43:20 [Pipian] | (Like I could see you offering perhaps an "eh it is trying too hard to be like Gaiman for my tastes" or "It's clearly ripping off Philip Pullman at parts" or some other rational complaint along those lines. But probably not quitting it mid-archive.) |
| 01:43:47 [Pipian] | (It is basically a thing where you will almost certainly read through the entire archive before making a final decision.) |
| 01:43:53 [Puyopuyo] | I have not gotten further than the first chapter. |
| 01:43:57 [Puyopuyo] | But you suggest that it gets better. |
| 01:44:02 [Pipian] | Yes. |
| 01:44:03 [Puyopuyo] | Keep in mind that I am not a huge fan of Gaiman's writing. |
| 01:44:19 [Pipian] | This is precisely why you may dislike it, depending on how much like it you think it is. |
| 01:44:33 [Puyopuyo] | Much like Stephenson, I feel that while the ride may be enjoyable, I know that at the end, there's a cliff the vehicle must go over. |
| 01:44:35 [Pipian] | (I am not entirely convinced it is entirely Gaiman-esque) |
| 01:44:44 [Puyopuyo] | Well, I shall investigate when I have time. |
| 01:44:51 [Pipian] | Thus far, I've not seen an obvious cliff |
| 01:45:14 [Pipian] | I want to say there are some obvious foreshadows at points |
| 01:45:30 [Pipian] | But it really doesn't seem that bad. |
| 01:45:45 [Pipian] | But it does take a little while to hit its stride. |
| 01:45:48 [Pipian] | Basically |
| 01:48:13 [Pipian] | Read through the archive and make up your mind. |
| 01:48:19 [Pipian] | It's a bit long I will admit |
| 01:49:09 [Pipian] | But it takes a while to start weaving together |
| 01:49:19 [Pipian] | Since each chapter at first sort of seems standalone |
| 01:49:31 [Pipian] | But they start weaving into something more later on |
| 01:50:44 [Pipian] | I'd say chapter 17 or chapter 18 should probably be about the point where you'll have made up your mind |
| 01:51:00 [Pipian] | Because enough of the continuity is in place by that point. |
| 01:52:09 [Pipian] | It's a slow burn I guess I should say |
| 01:56:21 [Pipian] | So it could easily be the case that you don't like it because it takes that long I suppose |
| 02:25:01 [Pipian] | Oh, and as for webcomics |
| 02:25:19 [Pipian] | There's always Tails Gets Trolled (haw) |
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