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04:11:00 <nathanbp> select is the worst weapon switch button :(
04:11:05 <nathanbp> </super metroid>
04:13:30 <Puyopuyo> So CHANGE IT
04:13:49 <Puyopuyo> The wonders of customizable controls!
04:21:14 <nathanbp> unless I'm missing something there's no reasonable other set of controls?
04:21:43 <nathanbp> one where say x would fire normally and y would fire the selected weapon?
04:24:17 <Puyopuyo> Hrm.
04:24:31 <Puyopuyo> I don't believe so.
04:24:56 <Puyopuyo> The idea, after all, is that you're activating modules on your arm cannon to use the alternate weapons
04:25:07 <Puyopuyo> So you cannot be able to fire normally while having a selected weapon.
04:25:13 <Puyopuyo> So...yeah, you can't have what you want there...
04:32:25 <nathanbp> well that's really the only thing that would help
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04:33:25 <gadgetgrl> !pointer
04:33:25 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2012-02-27.html#T4-33-25
04:34:02 <nathanbp> anyways I finally beat the boss (no clue what the bosses are called in this game) and got the space jump
04:34:11 <nathanbp> seems pretty good :D
04:34:59 <Puyopuyo> The dragon?
04:35:08 <Puyopuyo> Or the giant crawfish?
04:35:33 <Puyopuyo> I think it's Draygon (the crawfish with the cannons) that gives you the Space Jump
04:35:48 <nathanbp> uh, more like a crawfish I guess
04:35:55 <Puyopuyo> Easiest way to beat him is to shoot out the cannons, have him grab you, and then grapple beam the cannons.
04:35:57 <Puyopuyo> That's Draygon
04:36:00 <nathanbp> yeah with cannons in the walls
04:36:09 <nathanbp> oh is that how you're supposed to do it
04:36:11 <Puyopuyo> No.
04:36:13 <Puyopuyo> It's one way to do it.
04:36:18 <nathanbp> that probably would have been easier
04:36:19 <Puyopuyo> Shooting him with missiles is just as effective.
04:36:25 <Puyopuyo> That's the easiest way though.
04:36:48 <nathanbp> I destroyed him with super missiles and then missiles while dodging everything as a ball
04:37:00 <Puyopuyo> So I'm assuming you've beaten Kraid (2 screen tall Godzilla like monster), Phantoon (ghost on the wrecked ship, looks like a cyclops octopus), and Draygon
04:37:03 <Puyopuyo> Only one left then is Ridley.
04:37:12 <Puyopuyo> Yeah, that works on almost all bosses.
04:37:23 <nathanbp> and only attacking when he swooped down and shot rocks at me
04:37:25 <Puyopuyo> Against Phantoon, super missiles are generally a bad idea because it makes him freak the fuck out.
04:37:31 <Puyopuyo> That works
04:37:45 <nathanbp> thus the need to quickly swap between regular attacks and missiles
04:39:01 <Puyopuyo> It's the first select, isn't it?
04:39:12 <Puyopuyo> And you can use...what was it, Y? to cancel your special weapon selection.
04:39:29 <nathanbp> yeah
04:39:57 <nathanbp> but it's: spam normal shot at rocks to get them out of the way, then switch to missiles and spam that as quickly as possible
04:40:03 <nathanbp> and it's 2 selects for super missiles
04:40:46 <Puyopuyo> Fair enough
04:40:59 <Puyopuyo> This'll stop mattering once you get the Plasma beam, and then your charge shots are comparable in strength to missiles
04:41:21 <nathanbp> man I was so good at this space jump thing when I wasn't above a pit full of spikes...
04:41:31 <nathanbp> What are charge shots? :P
04:42:12 <nathanbp> Charge shots seem pretty useless
04:42:40 <gadgetgrl> [re: poll of states: ian, you really had to pull out jersey from the data to make that statement. Also, they fail to point out where the voters from the cross section are from, and how the survey was distributed. fail from the poll to explain their methodology in any sensible form. it would be interesting to see if there was survey fatigue from voters since the voting seemed very tedious, or if there were biases based upon the groupin
04:42:41 <gadgetgrl> provided to the voters. I find it humorous that guys were reported to like some of the most no-where states.]
04:42:58 <gadgetgrl> [geez, grad school has made me survey cynical] 
04:52:03 <Puyopuyo> Charge shots are great when your component beams are good.
04:52:07 <Puyopuyo> Which is to say, you have Wave and Plasma
04:52:47 <Puyopuyo> Remember Jenn, everyone likes Idaho. It has potatoes.
04:53:35 <nathanbp> well either I'm about to get plasma
04:53:44 <nathanbp> or I'm going way the heck out of my way for another 5 missiles
04:54:13 <nathanbp> survey says plasma
04:54:48 <Puyopuyo> Boss for Plasma. Have fuuun!
04:56:54 <nathanbp> ? You mean the next boss?
04:56:57 <Pipian> Jenn
04:57:07 <Pipian> The whole point is to pull Jersey out of it.
04:57:20 <Pipian> I believe they imply that the survey is nationwide
04:57:36 <Pipian> (This is a national polling firm after all)
04:57:37 <Puyopuyo> No, I don't
04:57:40 <Puyopuyo> I mean a mini-boss.
04:57:49 <Puyopuyo> Like Spore Spawn.
04:57:51 <Pipian> And they do give the breakdowns of the overall people queried (race, etc.)
04:58:53 <Pipian> To wit: "PPP surveys are conducted through automated telephone interviews."
04:59:12 <Pipian> They also state "American voters" implying a broad spectrum of sources
04:59:16 <nathanbp> Sam: there was no miniboss unless you count all the red guys you have to kill to get out of the room will plasma
04:59:54 <Puyopuyo> ...what the hell am I thinking-
04:59:55 <Puyopuyo> Oh
05:00:05 <Puyopuyo> Yeah...Screw Attack is NOT Plasma beam.
05:00:08 <Puyopuyo> Sorry, forgot.
05:00:11 <Pipian> They also give a cross tab of a shorter survey as well
05:00:15 <Puyopuyo> Fun with Red Space Pirates.
05:00:21 <Puyopuyo> Enjoying Plasma destruction, Nathan?
05:00:24 <Pipian> (The first survey had 8 questions, and only asked about ND and WA)
05:00:56 <Pipian> (The second has 21 questions can be cross tabbed against WA, although they admittedly asks that question first)
05:01:43 <Pipian> (The third had 21 questions and couldn't be cross tabbed against ND or WA)
05:02:17 <Pipian> (Likewise with the fourth, which had 22 questions)
05:08:42 <nathanbp> Sam: Help, I'm in a room in Maridia and super bombed the right wall down
05:08:54 <nathanbp> now beyond that is what looks like a bunch of sand
05:09:05 <nathanbp> and the x-ray scope shows nothing
05:09:31 <Puyopuyo> Have you tried sinking through the sand?
05:11:25 <nathanbp> no the sand is to the right
05:11:31 <nathanbp> apparently I have to not kill this thing
05:11:36 <nathanbp> and then it breaks the sand for me
05:11:39 <Puyopuyo> Oh, that thing
05:11:42 <Puyopuyo> Yeah, let it dig for you
05:14:15 <nathanbp> it was the spring ball room
05:15:30 <Puyopuyo> AHAHAHAHA
05:18:33 <nathanbp> Which seemed so cool when I read about it in the manual
05:18:39 <nathanbp> but now that I have crazy space jump
05:18:44 <nathanbp> does not seem nearly as cool
05:18:54 <nathanbp> also, enough super metroid for tonight
05:19:43 <Puyopuyo> Fair enough
05:19:54 <Puyopuyo> And yeah, the spring ball is a lot cooler in theory than it EVER is in practice.
05:20:04 <Puyopuyo> It's probably number one on the "COMPLETELY OPTIONAL" items.
05:22:57 <nathanbp> I'm kinda surprised I noticed how to get to it
05:25:49 <nathanbp> ugh I think the next apartment over has a smoke detector with low battery...so annoying
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06:10:57 <gadgetgrl> imply versus actually are very two different things, especially how it's distrubuted
06:11:59 <gadgetgrl> of course they're going to say american...they're not going to say, we got 90% of our votes from texas, but the rest were spread throughout all 50 states, mkaing it "american"...just saying, it's missing a lot of data
06:13:06 <gadgetgrl> i feel like i need to play super metroid at some point now, as right now the descriptions are very interesting *adds to increasing list*
06:15:12 <gadgetgrl> i'd almost rather have a beeping smoke detector than 2 straight nights of smelling pot in my living room >.>
06:15:31 <gadgetgrl> at least it doesn't smell like a skunk attack any more
06:16:11 <gadgetgrl> is super metroid a bit more guided path than the first one? i tried playing the ambassador game, but got horribly lost after a bit
06:16:31 <gadgetgrl> i was told that was the adventure part of the game
06:16:57 <Puyopuyo> <@gadgetgrl> i'd almost rather have a beeping smoke detector than 2 straight nights of smelling pot in my living room >.> | <snarky> Only 2 nights? Worse than that here regularly. </snarky> That sucks though
06:17:13 <Puyopuyo> No, Super Metroid is not particularly guided
06:17:20 <Puyopuyo> If you want a guided Metroid, play Metroid Fusion
06:17:34 <Puyopuyo> Super Metroid is a lot of "Well, I can't go past here right now, I'll try finding something else"
06:17:44 <Puyopuyo> It's far more organized, and offers you mapping.
06:18:01 <Puyopuyo> Which makes it significantly easier to play than original Metroid, which is a lot of "I HOPE YOU'RE WRITING EVERYTHING DOWN"
06:18:02 <gadgetgrl> well, that's when it penetrates into our apartment that i can smell it on my side...which  means it's pretty potent in the hall...but yeah, it could be a lot worse
06:18:24 <gadgetgrl> cool, i'll check that one out first then
06:20:01 <nathanbp> Adding another reason to the list of reasons to not have a roommate (re: pot)
06:20:17 <gadgetgrl> but it's not my roommate! it's downstairs, across the hall!
06:20:22 <nathanbp> Ah
06:20:29 <nathanbp> that sucks :(
06:20:32 <Puyopuyo> (Metroid fusion has a good bit of "oh shit hide!", but at no point are you ever lost or having to figure out where to go next.
06:20:33 <Puyopuyo> )
06:20:35 <gadgetgrl> it just happens your apartment complex is made up of the exact opposite of mine :)
06:20:43 <gadgetgrl> (oh, that's fine)
06:21:05 <nathanbp> Super Metroid you can mostly guess where you have to go next
06:21:07 <Puyopuyo> (I mean, if you don't care for "EXPLORE UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO", it'll work for you. Hell, most of the modern Metroids will.)
06:21:19 <nathanbp> I think I had only one point where I had no clue where to go next
06:21:25 <Puyopuyo> You can figure it out because you get "new item", and it always shows you where "new item" can take you.
06:21:26 <Puyopuyo> Which one?
06:21:29 <Puyopuyo> Getting into Maridia?
06:21:48 <nathanbp> Uhhh...I don't remember any more
06:22:17 <Puyopuyo> Well, there's the infamous "noob bridge", which is "LEARN YOU HAVE A DAMN RUN BUTTON"
06:22:38 <Puyopuyo> And the ever popular "noob tube", which is "WELL, YOU SAW A BROKEN TUBE A LITTLE FURTHER ONWARD, HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO BREAK THIS?"
06:23:11 <nathanbp> I think it was in Brinstar before you get the Ice Beam
06:23:21 <Puyopuyo> Ah.
06:24:33 <nathanbp> and I went all the way around twice before figuring out where to go next? Or maybe I googled it
06:25:36 <nathanbp> Ugh I don't think there's even anyone in the apartment next door half the time...
06:27:55 <Puyopuyo> Damn, I should move in and squat.
06:42:43 <nathanbp> Fine with me so long as you change the smoke detector battery
06:42:53 <nathanbp> I might have to sleep on my couch tonight :(
06:43:27 <Puyopuyo> It's a comfortable couch.
06:44:24 <nathanbp> it is.
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