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03:05:26 <gadgetgrl> !pointer
03:05:27 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2012-02-03.html#T3-5-26
03:09:48 <gadgetgrl> two things: gah, i should have never heard about jellyfish princess dvds
03:10:04 <gadgetgrl> : pax prime is a possibility, but i will know more in a month or so hopefully?
03:10:21 <gadgetgrl> if not, my house is probably available for you guys (but probably not friends)
03:10:32 <gadgetgrl> (of yours)
03:12:00 <gadgetgrl> (maybe one or two)
03:12:19 <gadgetgrl> i have space for 2 in my room for pax east right now 
03:12:24 <gadgetgrl> (allie can't make it)
03:12:33 <Puyopuyo> So just you and Wally?
03:12:50 <gadgetgrl> right now
03:12:57 <Pipian> I need to buy Saturday tickets
03:12:59 <Pipian> but
03:13:00 <Pipian> so lazy
03:13:03 <gadgetgrl> heh
03:13:24 <gadgetgrl> you guys are the first to hear about the room opening..i might open it to a few more
03:13:32 <gadgetgrl> before considering consolidating or whatnot
03:14:02 <Pipian> What you think I don't plan on just blowing my bike tire out by biking cross town again?
03:14:07 <Pipian> Because that's totally what I plan on doing
03:15:18 <Puyopuyo> You should get Phillip's bike.
03:15:24 <Pipian> psht
03:15:27 <Pipian> I got my own
03:15:30 <Pipian> Unlike his
03:15:33 <Pipian> Mine works and is fine
03:15:38 <Pipian> It could probably stand to be cleaned up
03:15:44 <Pipian> So that the brakes don't squeal
03:15:47 <Pipian> But otherwise it's fine
03:15:49 <Puyopuyo> But his is legendary!
03:15:56 <Pipian> You know it
03:16:27 <gadgetgrl> is it lengen---dary?
03:16:40 <gadgetgrl> (been watching too much "how i met your mother" in the bg)
03:16:54 <Puyopuyo> Oh, Jenn, you apparently have NEVER friended me on the 3DS.
03:17:01 <gadgetgrl> oh?
03:17:03 <Puyopuyo> Yeah.
03:17:13 <gadgetgrl> will have to do so
03:17:15 <Puyopuyo> My friends list is all "MAKE SURE JENN HAS YOUR FRIEND CODE!"
03:17:18 <gadgetgrl> lol
03:17:18 <Pipian> I don't think I have either
03:17:34 <Pipian> Instead I have a bunch of people who send me ponies in that note thing
03:17:39 <gadgetgrl> lol
03:17:41 <Pipian> Which I haven't logged in to see in forever
03:17:45 <gadgetgrl> i haven't used the note thing yet
03:17:52 <Pipian> Or, for that matter, to play Mario Kart
03:17:53 <Pipian> gosh
03:17:55 <Pipian> I'm slipping
03:18:02 <Pipian> I should probably charge it huh
03:18:12 <gadgetgrl> i still need to get that
03:18:18 <gadgetgrl> and plug in mine >.>
03:19:07 <Pipian> Just as I need to get Mario 3D Land
03:21:14 <gadgetgrl> i think the phrase that sums that game up for me is, "it gets better"
03:28:16 <Puyopuyo> It does.
03:28:28 <Puyopuyo> It starts really mediocre, but gets quite a bit better later on.
03:32:27 <gadgetgrl> off topic: anyone know a good html5/javascript programmer willing to work on contract for mid-feb to mid-april?
03:32:34 <gadgetgrl> i need one for thesis >.>
03:32:50 <gadgetgrl> preferably with experience/interest in games
03:33:05 <Puyopuyo> ...I'm inclined to not recommend my friends because they are standard comp-sci assholes, but they're talented. I'll inquire if they'd be interested.
03:34:34 <Pipian> Hah well
03:34:42 <Pipian> If I had time :hah:
03:34:59 <Pipian> I am doing some nifty semi-HTML 5 stuff now
03:35:07 <Pipian> Except it has nothing to do with the <canvas> tag
03:35:13 <Pipian> Which I have a sneaking suspicion you'll need
03:36:29 <gadgetgrl> yeah, i do need that :/
03:36:41 <gadgetgrl> i can deal with assholery if they actually get stuff done
03:37:05 <Pipian> <canvas> is not going to be something you'll find an average JS programmer to handle
03:37:10 <gadgetgrl> i know :/
03:37:16 <gadgetgrl> tell me about it, it's not my ideal situation
03:37:21 <Puyopuyo> I'll ask then.
03:37:24 <Pipian> But I'll inquire around.
03:37:28 <gadgetgrl> but i'm working partially with my lab, hence being able to offer contract-pay
03:37:30 <gadgetgrl> and not just credit
03:37:35 <gadgetgrl> cool, thanks!
03:37:37 <Pipian> Not that being from Boston helps matters
03:37:48 <gadgetgrl> i'm okay with remote if they can deliver
03:38:03 <gadgetgrl> and are okay with skype or other chat formats
03:38:32 <Pipian> I dunno
03:38:53 <Pipian> From my experience it's going to be a fuckton easier to deliver if they can talk to you and demo in person
03:39:03 <Pipian> From a software engineering perspective
03:39:08 <gadgetgrl> i agree
03:39:11 <gadgetgrl> but i'll take what i can
03:40:03 <gadgetgrl> we have someone in person now...i'd rather have a remote person
03:40:20 <gadgetgrl> if it means i actually have something by april
03:40:46 <Puyopuyo> Your person is not very reliable?
03:40:58 <gadgetgrl> we're overdue
03:41:00 <gadgetgrl> by a lot
03:41:11 <gadgetgrl> and it has yet to have game elements implemented
03:41:28 <gadgetgrl> luckily this is not effecting my project yet
03:41:34 <gadgetgrl> (thesis)
03:41:42 <gadgetgrl> but it is effecting the other project it's being created for
03:41:58 <gadgetgrl> this doesn't leave this chat room, btw
03:44:26 <Puyopuyo> "I have a friend who is overdue on her project because one of her partners sucks!"
03:45:11 <Puyopuyo> >_> Not exactly an uncommon scenario. Though given that it's in the logs, probably preferable that we don't put names on today's log.
03:46:25 <Pipian> I can add a robots.txt block
03:47:16 <gadgetgrl> no, that was last semester
03:47:39 <gadgetgrl> eh, more that friends you talk to don't hear about it
03:52:49 <Pipian> Oh hey
03:53:06 <Pipian> Boston is getting that Ghibli thing
03:53:08 <Pipian> thanks MFA
03:54:45 <Pipian> It'd allow me to finish up the ones I need to see (Kiki's, Castle in the Sky, Nausicaa)
03:56:27 <Puyopuyo> Yeah, I'll pass on too many personal details.
03:56:32 <Puyopuyo> Business is business after all
03:58:21 <gadgetgrl> i missed nausicaa when it went through the ifc this winter :/
03:58:37 <gadgetgrl> that an the yamadas the only two i've missed
03:58:45 <gadgetgrl> (thanks, Sam!)
04:01:28 <Pipian> Well I have to go tomorrow or I'll miss out on Kiki's
04:01:35 <Pipian> (I'll skip Howl's)
04:01:43 <Pipian> (So it goes)
04:05:25 <gadgetgrl> no, not howl's!
04:05:34 <gadgetgrl> it happens though
04:06:08 <Pipian> Well
04:06:10 <Pipian> It started on the first
04:06:18 <Pipian> And Howl's happens to be the first one tomorrow
04:06:22 <Pipian> Which means I'd miss it anyway
04:09:00 <gadgetgrl> makes sense
04:09:04 <gadgetgrl> are they all subbed?
04:35:17 <Puyopuyo> I'm being asked about the nature of the programming task.
04:45:10 <gadgetgrl> 2d, dungeon crawler, with a splash of math
04:45:19 <gadgetgrl> (math learning)
04:57:51 <nathanbp> hey there's backlog to read
04:59:44 <nathanbp> Jenn you haven't seen Nausicaa?!
05:04:14 <nathanbp> I'm afraid the only HTML 5/Javascript person I know is myself, and while I have been wanting to learn some more about the canvas tag I dunno how much time I'd have to write things >_>
05:27:29 <gadgetgrl> nope, haven't seen it
05:28:01 <gadgetgrl> yeah, that's the situation we're getting into a lot
05:29:11 <Pipian> I'll nose around upstairs
05:29:29 <Pipian> I mean it is the W3C.  If one of them doesn't know a guy, well
05:30:30 <gadgetgrl> what are our universities coming to?
05:31:46 <Pipian> Not getting me in the position to really interact with those who hack with <canvas>.  That's what.
05:31:55 <Pipian> I'm certain some MIT students do.
05:32:02 <Pipian> I just don't know them
05:32:58 <nathanbp> do people really do games with canvas vs. with absolute positioning of divs?
05:33:28 <nathanbp> seems like positioning images would be easier...
05:33:28 <Pipian> nathanbp: If you need to do complex sprite stuff (e.g. Mode 7 crap) it's nice.
05:34:01 <nathanbp> it actually supports that kind of stuff?
05:34:10 <Pipian> If you're doing things like arbitrary paths and such, yeah, you could do SVG, but <canvas> is probably better.
05:34:16 <nathanbp> I haven't had to pay attention to it behind drawing lines
05:34:41 <Pipian> <canvas> is basically a canvas you can draw on.
05:35:02 <Pipian> i.e. you could implement bit-blitting on it
05:35:09 <nathanbp> yeah but don't you have to redraw the whole thing every frame?
05:35:33 <nathanbp> vs. just using HTML which basically already has layers?
05:36:04 <Pipian> Yeah you do have to redraw each frame
05:36:21 <Pipian> I mean if it's simple spiriting, you're probably better off with just divs
05:36:32 <Pipian> But any advanced imaging, go with <canvas>
05:37:01 <Pipian> e.g.
05:37:05 <Pipian> If you want to do emulation
05:37:47 <Pipian> http://www.atopon.org/mandel/
05:37:48 <Sacchi> Mandelbrot Set in HTML 5 Canvas
05:37:50 <Pipian> Or Mandelbrot sets
05:39:08 <Pipian> http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/
05:39:08 <Sacchi> Canvas Cycle: True 8-bit Color Cycling with HTML5
05:39:13 <nathanbp> please don't tell me there's an SNES emulator written entirely in Javascript
05:39:25 <Pipian> Or reimplementing old ColorCycling images from Monkey Island, etc.
05:39:38 <Pipian> Well, I had a link to an MSX one
05:39:48 <Pipian> But I couldn't get it to run in Chrome (it wanted to download instead)
05:40:08 <Pipian> That said
05:40:09 <nathanbp> well yeah, but neither of those involve redrawing entire frames
05:40:12 <Pipian> The answer to your question is
05:40:13 <Pipian> http://fir.sh/projects/jsnes/
05:40:13 <Pipian> Yes
05:40:15 <Sacchi> JSNES: A JavaScript NES emulator – Ben Firshman
05:40:33 <Pipian> Although it's actually NES
05:40:34 <Pipian> So
05:40:37 <Pipian> Same dif
05:40:43 <Pipian> (redrawing every frame)
05:41:42 <nathanbp> yeah, ok
05:41:51 <Pipian> But in those cases, you want canvas
05:41:53 <nathanbp> You're supposed to show me these things while I'm at work
05:41:54 <Pipian> Not div
05:42:00 <Pipian> Nor SVC
05:42:06 <nathanbp> so I can claim to be doing research
06:04:14 <gadgetgrl> you should do research by making my game ;p
06:04:35 <Puyopuyo> ...wouldn't that belong to the government?
06:05:30 <Puyopuyo> As I seem to recall Nathan working for a government contractor.
06:11:50 <gadgetgrl> um...i suppose if on work hours and equipment...
06:13:29 <Puyopuyo> I thought it was "research" if he did it during work?
06:13:30 <Puyopuyo> >_>
06:13:37 <gadgetgrl> true...
06:13:38 <gadgetgrl> damn
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18:22:51 <nathanbp|work> Hey the Negima! manga is finally ending soon
18:23:22 <nathanbp|work> then I'll just have to wait another 2 years for all the volumes to be out in the US
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