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19:08:07 <nathanbp|laptop> Me: Maybe this time I'll beat Lavos in the Ocean Palace
19:08:23 <nathanbp|laptop> Lavos: Destruction rains from the heavens. Your entire party dies.
19:08:49 <Puyopuyo> You should be level 80 or better to try it.
19:08:56 <Puyopuyo> His Destruction Rains is like 800 damage to everyone
19:09:19 <nathanbp|laptop> It did over 1000
19:09:32 <nathanbp|laptop> at level 33 or so
19:11:24 <Puyopuyo> Yes. It does.
19:13:55 <nathanbp|laptop> time to find new triple techs!
19:26:50 <nathanbp|laptop> Ayla seems like cheating for the "get all your equipment stolen" part...
19:28:33 <Puyopuyo> I suppose. The option was very much there for you to think about
19:29:20 <nathanbp|laptop> Yes we should all play our JRPGs under the assumtion that at any point all our gear might be stolen :P
19:31:41 <Puyopuyo> No, that's not what I'm saying.
19:32:03 <Puyopuyo> I'm saying that assuming you play it without Ayla in your team the first time, you can wonder "I wonder what happens if I have Ayla in the team"
19:32:13 <Puyopuyo> Remember, this game is huge on NG+
19:32:19 <nathanbp|laptop> ah, true
19:32:26 <nathanbp|laptop> I think I had Ayla in my team every time
19:32:39 <nathanbp|laptop> Cause Lucca and Marle are useless
19:34:33 <nathanbp|laptop> ZSNES ate my mouse :(
19:36:04 <Puyopuyo> Aw
19:36:33 <nathanbp|laptop> Seriously is there some reason their melee attacks do half the damage of everyone else's?
19:40:43 <Puyopuyo> Yeah.
19:40:46 <Puyopuyo> They have crap strength.
19:40:55 <Puyopuyo> Guns and bows do damage based on strike.
19:41:05 <nathanbp|laptop> I meant a game design reason
19:41:07 <Puyopuyo> But their melee attacks do a modifier of their weapon attributes and their power.
19:41:25 <Puyopuyo> Because it doesn't make sense that they do more damage whacking someone with their strike stat?
19:41:48 <nathanbp|laptop> oh sorry, by "melee" I really just meant "using the attack command"
19:42:07 <nathanbp|laptop> do they really do any less damage when they're next to someone than they do when they shoot?
19:43:09 <Puyopuyo> Depending on the weapon, yeah.
19:43:29 <Puyopuyo> And I believe the benefit of that is that they don't have the "can't reach" problem ever.
19:44:56 <nathanbp|laptop> I don't remember what to do on the airship now that I've got all my stuff
19:46:44 <Puyopuyo> Go outside and find Dalton.
19:53:09 <nathanbp|laptop> ah, right
19:53:10 <nathanbp|laptop> thanks
19:54:24 <nathanbp|laptop> why can't I use the lasers on Epoch to take out Lavos?
19:59:52 <Puyopuyo> Shell's too hard, they broke, Lucca's a jerk, etc.
20:00:48 <nathanbp|laptop> Magus doesn't even come with a good weapon!
20:00:53 <nathanbp|laptop> I want a refund.
20:01:06 <Puyopuyo> Nope
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21:57:55 <Puyopuyo> !pointer
21:57:55 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-12-29.html#T21-57-55
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