00:35:56 <Pipian> MTA to be shut down 8 hours before 39mph winds are to arrive
00:36:07 <Pipian> No service starting late Saturday afternoon through Monday morning
00:36:26 <Pipian> Rockaway, Coney Island, Battery Park City may see 6 feet of flood water
00:39:51 <nathanbp> well that sounds like a load of fun :(
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17:45:57 <Pipian> So I finished looting Borders's corpse yesterday
17:48:33 <nathanbp|work> oh
17:48:36 <nathanbp|work> get anything good?
17:48:37 <Pipian> MTA shuts down noon on Saturday
17:48:48 <Pipian> And I already got most of what I wanted
17:48:53 <nathanbp|work> really? what a bunch of wimps :P
17:48:54 <Pipian> Yesterday was just to mop up some CD box sets
17:49:03 <nathanbp|work> I guess I won't be sailing Saturday afternoon
17:49:16 <Pipian> (Previously I got a bunch of CDs, but no books)
17:49:25 <Pipian> I also picked up three books that looked interesting
17:49:30 <Pipian> No really good CS books per se
17:49:53 <Pipian> And I didn't really look closely at the manga since there's nothing I'm in need of (Yotsuba, SZS and such haven't come out for a while)
17:51:17 <Pipian> Tappan Zee and George Washington bridges also shut at noon
18:17:07 <nathanbp|work> oh wow, noon saturday?
18:19:21 <Pipian> Yes
18:20:44 <nathanbp|work> what's your source for that?
18:22:01 <Pipian> Okay
18:22:04 <Pipian> Maybe not at noon
18:22:11 <Pipian> But iff winds exceed 60MPH
18:22:11 <Pipian> http://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahBicmVha2luZ25ld3Mtd3d3cg0LEgRTZWVkGLycnAQM/2011/08/26/ny-governor-cuomo-orders-nyc-bridges-to-shut-down-if-winds-exceed-60-mph-including-the-george-washington-and-tappan-zee-bridges-reuters
18:22:18 <nathanbp|work> ok
18:22:46 <Pipian> Also
18:22:49 <Pipian> for New Yorkers
18:22:54 <Pipian> Mandatory evac for low
18:22:54 <Pipian> -
18:22:56 <Pipian> lying areas
18:22:57 <Pipian> http://twitter.com/#!/NYTMetro/status/107148829375213569
18:22:58 <Sacchi> Twitter
18:24:02 <Pipian> This includes Battery Park, Far Rockaway, and Coney Island
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19:35:33 <AChes> !pointer
19:35:33 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-08-26.html#T19-35-33
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21:28:47 <AChes> so anyone have good advice for buying internet access?
21:30:38 <nathanbp|work> ??
21:30:40 <nathanbp|work> !pointer
21:30:41 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-08-26.html#T21-30-40
21:31:21 <nathanbp|work> Get FIOS?
21:32:44 <AChes> It seems like my options are TWC and ATT, do you know if uverse is like fios?
21:35:10 <AChes> also is fios worth it if the nominal speeds are the same as cable?
21:36:02 <Pipian> Uverse is like FIOS from my tangential knowledge of the subject
21:36:48 <Pipian> Neither has Comcast does it?
21:36:55 <nathanbp|work> Pretty sure Uverse is not like FIOS
21:37:46 <nathanbp|work> yeah Uverse is fiber to somewhere closeish to you
21:37:48 <nathanbp|work> and then DSL to you
21:37:57 <nathanbp|work> FIOS is fiber to your house
21:38:15 <nathanbp|work> I'd say FIOS is worth it as you're more likely to actually get the nominal speeds
21:38:41 <nathanbp|work> If you can't get FIOS then which is better probably varies locally
21:39:22 <nathanbp|work> and has more to do with what kind of service you can actually get from your ISP (meaning do they suck at fixing things or not)
21:40:50 <AChes> yeah I think I end up with cable, mostly because ATT seems to be a pain for my folks to deal with
21:42:56 <Pipian> nathanbp: I thought it was the other way around
21:43:02 <Pipian> One is to the curb, one is to the node
21:43:48 <Pipian> Uverse is Fiber to the Neighborhood, with Fiber to the Premises in some places
21:44:27 <Pipian> FiOS is to the home, yes.
21:44:57 <Pipian> U-verse is IPTV
21:45:03 <Pipian> FiOS is not
21:45:06 <Pipian> (QAM)
21:45:11 <Pipian> In case that matters for you
21:46:18 <AChes> I wasn't planning on getting TV so I don't think so
21:47:32 <AChes> I should see if i can figure out where my node would be, uverse might be worth if if it's realy close, I suppose I should measure the currnt one through TWC too
21:47:46 <Pipian> Well
21:47:50 <Pipian> It's still ADSL for the last mile
21:47:58 <Pipian> Unless you're in one of the FTTP neighborhoods
21:48:10 <Pipian> Ultimately
21:48:23 <Pipian> Your best choice is probably going to be based on provider rather than "is it FTTP or FTTN"
21:49:04 <Pipian> e.g. What are each provider's caps and service available /in your area/
21:49:33 <AChes> yeah I should see if there are caps but they really want to bury that information
21:49:50 <Pipian> And also what their network management info is.
21:50:04 <Pipian> e.g. Comcast and torrents (although I hear that's less of a problem with Comcast these days)
21:51:16 <Pipian> You can usually do this by trolling places like DSLReports
21:51:27 <Pipian> You'll always hear bad stories and good stories
21:51:30 <Pipian> But you can get a good feel
21:52:54 <AChes> I was dreading that answer, but it's probably right
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