IRC log of Cochineal on 2011-08-26

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00:35:56 [Pipian]MTA to be shut down 8 hours before 39mph winds are to arrive
00:36:07 [Pipian]No service starting late Saturday afternoon through Monday morning
00:36:26 [Pipian]Rockaway, Coney Island, Battery Park City may see 6 feet of flood water
00:39:51 [nathanbp]well that sounds like a load of fun :(
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17:45:57 [Pipian]So I finished looting Borders's corpse yesterday
17:48:33 [nathanbp|work]oh
17:48:36 [nathanbp|work]get anything good?
17:48:37 [Pipian]MTA shuts down noon on Saturday
17:48:48 [Pipian]And I already got most of what I wanted
17:48:53 [nathanbp|work]really? what a bunch of wimps :P
17:48:54 [Pipian]Yesterday was just to mop up some CD box sets
17:49:03 [nathanbp|work]I guess I won't be sailing Saturday afternoon
17:49:16 [Pipian](Previously I got a bunch of CDs, but no books)
17:49:25 [Pipian]I also picked up three books that looked interesting
17:49:30 [Pipian]No really good CS books per se
17:49:53 [Pipian]And I didn't really look closely at the manga since there's nothing I'm in need of (Yotsuba, SZS and such haven't come out for a while)
17:51:17 [Pipian]Tappan Zee and George Washington bridges also shut at noon
18:17:07 [nathanbp|work]oh wow, noon saturday?
18:19:21 [Pipian]Yes
18:20:44 [nathanbp|work]what's your source for that?
18:22:01 [Pipian]Okay
18:22:04 [Pipian]Maybe not at noon
18:22:11 [Pipian]But iff winds exceed 60MPH
18:22:11 [Pipian]http://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahBicmVha2luZ25ld3Mtd3d3cg0LEgRTZWVkGLycnAQM/2011/08/26/ny-governor-cuomo-orders-nyc-bridges-to-shut-down-if-winds-exceed-60-mph-including-the-george-washington-and-tappan-zee-bridges-reuters
18:22:18 [nathanbp|work]ok
18:22:46 [Pipian]Also
18:22:49 [Pipian]for New Yorkers
18:22:54 [Pipian]Mandatory evac for low
18:22:54 [Pipian]-
18:22:56 [Pipian]lying areas
18:22:57 [Pipian]http://twitter.com/#!/NYTMetro/status/107148829375213569
18:22:58 [Sacchi]Twitter
18:24:02 [Pipian]This includes Battery Park, Far Rockaway, and Coney Island
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19:35:33 [AChes]!pointer
19:35:33 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-08-26.html#T19-35-33
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21:28:47 [AChes]so anyone have good advice for buying internet access?
21:30:38 [nathanbp|work]??
21:30:40 [nathanbp|work]!pointer
21:30:41 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-08-26.html#T21-30-40
21:31:21 [nathanbp|work]Get FIOS?
21:32:46 [AChes]It seems like my options are TWC and ATT, do you know if uverse is like fios?
21:35:14 [AChes]also is fios worth it if the nominal speeds are the same as cable?
21:36:04 [Pipian]Uverse is like FIOS from my tangential knowledge of the subject
21:36:49 [Pipian]Neither has Comcast does it?
21:36:56 [nathanbp|work]Pretty sure Uverse is not like FIOS
21:37:46 [nathanbp|work]yeah Uverse is fiber to somewhere closeish to you
21:37:48 [nathanbp|work]and then DSL to you
21:37:57 [nathanbp|work]FIOS is fiber to your house
21:38:15 [nathanbp|work]I'd say FIOS is worth it as you're more likely to actually get the nominal speeds
21:38:41 [nathanbp|work]If you can't get FIOS then which is better probably varies locally
21:39:23 [nathanbp|work]and has more to do with what kind of service you can actually get from your ISP (meaning do they suck at fixing things or not)
21:40:51 [AChes]yeah I think I end up with cable, mostly because ATT seems to be a pain for my folks to deal with
21:42:56 [Pipian]nathanbp: I thought it was the other way around
21:43:02 [Pipian]One is to the curb, one is to the node
21:43:48 [Pipian]Uverse is Fiber to the Neighborhood, with Fiber to the Premises in some places
21:44:31 [Pipian]FiOS is to the home, yes.
21:44:57 [Pipian]U-verse is IPTV
21:45:03 [Pipian]FiOS is not
21:45:06 [Pipian](QAM)
21:45:11 [Pipian]In case that matters for you
21:46:18 [AChes]I wasn't planning on getting TV so I don't think so
21:47:32 [AChes]I should see if i can figure out where my node would be, uverse might be worth if if it's realy close, I suppose I should measure the currnt one through TWC too
21:47:46 [Pipian]Well
21:47:50 [Pipian]It's still ADSL for the last mile
21:47:58 [Pipian]Unless you're in one of the FTTP neighborhoods
21:48:10 [Pipian]Ultimately
21:48:23 [Pipian]Your best choice is probably going to be based on provider rather than "is it FTTP or FTTN"
21:49:04 [Pipian]e.g. What are each provider's caps and service available /in your area/
21:49:33 [AChes]yeah I should see if there are caps but they really want to bury that information
21:49:50 [Pipian]And also what their network management info is.
21:50:04 [Pipian]e.g. Comcast and torrents (although I hear that's less of a problem with Comcast these days)
21:51:16 [Pipian]You can usually do this by trolling places like DSLReports
21:51:27 [Pipian]You'll always hear bad stories and good stories
21:51:30 [Pipian]But you can get a good feel
21:52:54 [AChes]I was dreading that answer, but it's probably right
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