IRC log of Cochineal on 2011-07-24

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01:33:30 [gadgetgrl]!pointer
01:33:30 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-07-24.html#T1-33-30
01:36:55 [Puyopuyo]Ugh. Garage isn't open until Monday.
01:37:00 [Puyopuyo]I hope this can be fixed quickly.
01:37:01 [Puyopuyo]* Puyopuyo sighs.
02:11:37 [gadgetgrl]boo
02:11:48 [gadgetgrl]as long as they have the part in, shouldn't be too bad i would think
02:11:57 [gadgetgrl]depends on how busy they are :/
02:12:12 [gadgetgrl]did it damage the panel the mirror was attached to?
02:12:23 [gadgetgrl]that would be the only detriment i could imagine
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03:14:53 [Puyopuyo]<@gadgetgrl> did it damage the panel the mirror was attached to? | It's an electronic mirror, and the wires were torn clear apart, so...yyeeeah.
03:21:13 [gadgetgrl]oh :/
03:21:52 [Puyopuyo]Quite the number she did. So...if I'm lucky, we might be able to wrangle something quick. Otherwise my car's definitely out of commission.
03:21:54 [Puyopuyo]* Puyopuyo sighs.
03:24:22 [gadgetgrl]yeah
03:24:41 [gadgetgrl]what'd she hit?
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16:29:38 [gadgetgrl]!pointer
16:29:39 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-07-24.html#T16-29-38
16:39:04 [Puyopuyo]Nothing was said! *waves fingers*
16:39:33 [Puyopuyo]Oh, and to answer your question: A parked car.
16:39:41 [Puyopuyo]Its mirror survived. Mine got torn off.
16:45:20 [gadgetgrl]that's good in some ways
16:46:07 [gadgetgrl]did you still have to file a claim for it?
16:49:04 [Puyopuyo]I don't believe so.
16:49:23 [Puyopuyo]I mean, the owner wasn't around, and no damage was done, so I figure it's not a deal there, and we'll just have to deal with it.
16:56:38 [gadgetgrl]yeah
18:19:17 [Pipian]Technically speaking, I believe it is legal to drive with only two working rear-view mirrors.
18:21:04 [Pipian]But this is based on my recollections from a trip a long time ago where the correct interpretation may also be "If the center rear-view mirrors are blocked, you must have both side mirrors viewable." I don't really remember.
18:22:05 [gadgetgrl]yeah, it might be state-by-state as well
18:22:13 [gadgetgrl]it'd need to be looked up
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18:32:26 [Pipian]e.g. New York requires specifically a left-side wing mirror for a car to be legally driven, but does not require a right one unless the rear-window transmits less than 70% of incoming light.
18:38:08 [gadgetgrl]what about nj, de, and md?
18:38:57 [Pipian](Mind you, I'm not a lawyer, so I'd still probably try to find an alternate approach)
18:41:05 [gadgetgrl]yeah
18:41:15 [gadgetgrl]best to be fully covered
18:41:28 [gadgetgrl]last thing is to get caught with a ticket for something with an alternative
18:43:26 [Pipian]NJ requires driver's side, and the far side only if the rear-view is obstructed.
18:46:18 [Pipian]DE doesn't appear to require anything more than that there be a mirror placed such that they can see cars which overtake the vehicle (i.e. presumably implying rear and driver's side, or both sides if rear is blocked)
18:49:38 [Pipian]MD is the same as NJ.
18:49:50 [Pipian]NY is probably interpreted in practice as NJ.
18:50:20 [Pipian]So the general rule is "You must have a driver side mirror, and only need a passenger side mirror if the rear view is blocked."
18:50:46 [Pipian]Not "You must have two mirrors" (which would imply that rear-view and passenger side would be legal)
18:57:35 [gadgetgrl]not bad then
18:57:44 [gadgetgrl]de's is so broad
18:57:57 [Pipian]It's written broadly
18:58:15 [Pipian]But I suspect that in practice it's treated the same as the others.
18:58:30 [Pipian]Although I guess that technically it could mean that a rear view mirror alone would be sufficient
19:02:00 [Pipian]But yeah, better safe than sorry, especially if you think you would be an unsafe driver without the mirror, which is really the final arbiter on the matter.
19:04:32 [gadgetgrl]if that was the only car, it'd be different
19:04:46 [Pipian]Sure
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19:11:43 [Puyopuyo]While that's probably true, I don't like having difficulty passing on the right.
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20:43:54 [Puyopuyo]So according to Jennie, there will be baseball games all of the days of Otakon.
20:43:59 [Puyopuyo]Beware the massive crowds of doom.