00:19:34 <nathanbp> Hey I don't even have a DeCSS t-shirt!
00:20:33 <nathanbp> so I'm not really sure how I could buy "another" shirt
00:21:36 <Pipian> You didn't have a De-AACS shirt?
00:22:52 <nathanbp> no
00:22:59 <Pipian> Okay then
00:23:05 <Pipian> Then I don't know what Sam was talking about
02:40:08 <Puyopuyo> !pointer
02:40:08 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T2-40-8
02:40:39 <Puyopuyo> ...you don't?
02:40:43 <Puyopuyo> I could've sworn that you did.
02:41:09 <nathanbp> nope
02:41:12 <Puyopuyo> Huh
02:41:14 <Puyopuyo> Well, sorry then
03:09:56 <Puyopuyo> For Jenn: http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=7e60e5e01bb8fc852e1b3ace91d13743
03:47:47 <Puyopuyo> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-02-08/keroro-gunso/sgt-frog-tv-anime-ending-in-march <- Well Nathan, maybe they'll finally start catching up.
04:00:38 <Puyopuyo> Side for Jenn: I presume you've heard about The Wii Play?
04:00:40 <Puyopuyo> *Plays?
04:00:51 <Puyopuyo> (Man, I'm just queueing up on Sacchi.)
04:19:33 <gadgetgrl> !pointer
04:19:33 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T4-19-33
04:20:13 <gadgetgrl> just recently ran into them (today in fact)(
04:20:22 <Puyopuyo> ?
04:21:09 <gadgetgrl> wii plays
04:21:13 <gadgetgrl> and ha! 
04:21:16 <Puyopuyo> Ah
04:21:19 <gadgetgrl> i wonder how many were due to people stupidity
04:36:59 <Puyopuyo> Well, that was annoying, but I once again have a twitter account. Now I will let it languish.
04:51:19 <Pipian> Why would you do that to yourself
04:51:43 <Puyopuyo> So that I may win free stuff on occasion.
04:52:07 <Puyopuyo> Is it marketing? Sure. Would I have bought it anyway? Depending on the product, probably!
04:52:14 <Puyopuyo> Do I have followers? Absolutely not!
04:52:17 <Puyopuyo> I ruin the machine!
05:03:04 <Pipian> how dare you
05:03:15 <Pipian> don't you understand the intricacies of social networks
05:04:15 <Puyopuyo> Eh. I'm tired of the internet. It'll have to go.
05:47:31 <Pipian> Okay
05:47:33 <Pipian> That's it
05:47:35 <Pipian> xkcd
05:47:39 <Pipian> you're off my bookmarks
05:47:50 <Puyopuyo> My thought exactly.
05:47:57 <Puyopuyo> I went back two comics to see if there was anything redeeming.
05:48:08 <Puyopuyo> I know I'm bored when I check XKCD.
05:48:13 <Puyopuyo> But...wow. That's the end.
05:49:12 <Pipian> I mean
05:49:27 <Pipian> It's pretty bad when even Megatokyo can justify staying on my list without being visited
05:49:40 <Pipian> While xkcd actually manages to make me make the effort to take it off
05:49:40 <nathanbp> It'll still take them quite a while to finish subbing it, Sam
05:50:36 <nathanbp> ...wow xkcd.
05:50:57 <Puyopuyo> It's true.
05:51:01 <Puyopuyo> But there will be more for us.
06:38:49 <gadgetgrl> i really dont' see why the strong reaction to this weeks
06:39:04 <gadgetgrl> er...today's
06:39:48 <Puyopuyo> A webcomic of romance,
06:39:48 <Puyopuyo> sarcasm, math, and language.
06:39:53 <gadgetgrl> i would even consider it a the x axis on my sine wave of love/hate
06:40:17 <Puyopuyo> In many ways, this strip is kind of demonstrative of the slow hate many people have been developing for the comic.
06:40:19 <gadgetgrl> it's the slice of life category
06:40:53 <Puyopuyo> Really Jenn?
06:41:24 <Puyopuyo> I'm kind of scared of your life then...
06:41:49 <Puyopuyo> Or to clarify, I don't think this sort of conversation EVER comes up.
06:43:00 <Puyopuyo> From the bio nerd direction, they understand how breasts work. From the sexually perverse fetishist who DOESN'T understand how breasts work, to stare at a woman and think that, only to be impressed when said woman calls you out...that's very creepy.
06:43:49 <Puyopuyo> I don't know, maybe the joke resonates better with you because the subject matter isn't so underlyingly socially taboo.
06:44:41 <Puyopuyo> I think I'm failing to express myself well as well. I should have gotten more sleep...
06:44:46 <gadgetgrl> the thing is, the joke has been done soooo many times before
06:44:51 <gadgetgrl> in almost the same matter
06:44:53 <gadgetgrl> it's just pointless
06:45:17 <gadgetgrl> it's very creepy..but it's xkcd
06:45:31 <Pipian> That's not an excuse
06:45:43 <gadgetgrl> on the scale of creepy, this isn't as bad as the stalker ones, or unrequited love ones....
06:46:09 <gadgetgrl> but it's not surprising either
06:47:01 <Puyopuyo> I don't think in some ways, it's very surprising. The comic has gone from as bad as "creepy stalker" to "Milking breasts"
06:47:06 <Puyopuyo> It's kind of setting a new bar.
06:47:31 <gadgetgrl> see, creepy stalked is more of a warning of worse things to come, than mentioning breasts
06:48:00 <Puyopuyo> Mentioning breasts isn't what bothers me about the comic.
06:48:34 <Puyopuyo> It's specifically the "Guy sits and stares at woman, woman makes offhand comment about her breasts, punchline is 'SHE READ MY MIND'"
06:48:44 <gadgetgrl> but when you think of movies like the fockers (or some other ben stiller movie) where they mention milking a cat or such...that's almost as bad and mainstream
06:48:56 <gadgetgrl> true...
06:49:05 <gadgetgrl> but we already knew he's mentally off
06:49:09 <Pipian> The real punchline is in the tooltip
06:49:10 <Pipian> i.e.
06:49:11 <Puyopuyo> Who's "he"?
06:49:17 <Pipian> "guys only think about breasts har har"
06:49:30 <Puyopuyo> But that in its own way is somewhat stalkery.
06:49:33 <gadgetgrl> right
06:49:39 <Puyopuyo> I kind of assume stalkers are people who half live in their own ehads.
06:49:53 <Puyopuyo> Concocting some ridiculous fantasy about their target.
06:50:01 <Puyopuyo> And in some ways, this is rather similar.
06:50:02 <gadgetgrl> like milking their breasts
06:50:14 <gadgetgrl> right, so this is on par
06:50:25 <Puyopuyo> With the stalker comics? Yeah, I'll agree with that.
06:50:41 <Puyopuyo> But I think my tolerance of stalker comments has finally expired.
06:50:44 <Puyopuyo> Er, comics.
06:50:48 <gadgetgrl> ah, okay
06:51:01 <gadgetgrl> his other ones, i felt, were much more directed
06:51:15 <gadgetgrl> this is much more...trying to take off of other breast jokes
06:51:17 <gadgetgrl> and failing
06:51:48 <Puyopuyo> That also hurts it.
06:51:53 <Puyopuyo> Because it tries to utilize a mainstream joke...
06:52:05 <Puyopuyo> And in addition to being one of his stalker-style comics, FAILS TO MAKE IT WORK.
06:52:20 <Puyopuyo> So it's just this horribly awkward "why did I read that?" sort of feeling.
06:52:50 <Puyopuyo> And the other thing is that I think the running assumption when Ben Stiller movies are watched is that you're watching a sort of mindless comedy.
06:52:59 <gadgetgrl> besides his data visualizations ones, that's kind of the general sentiment
06:53:10 <gadgetgrl> true...they're supposed to be plain stupid
06:53:12 <Puyopuyo> Whereas XKCD has tried to bill itself as a little more techy, a little more sciencey. Guess that just wasn't working anymore.
06:53:25 <gadgetgrl> he hasn't been techy/sciency for a while now
06:53:31 <Puyopuyo> It's true.
06:53:55 <Puyopuyo> But I think this is a pretty good comic for the people who read it as a techy/sciency comic to reevaluate if it's really worth continuing to read.
06:54:13 <Puyopuyo> ...though I am somewhat inclined to check the XKCD forums and see how the "true fans" justify it.
06:55:53 <Pipian> True fans will justify anything
06:56:19 <Pipian> The most vocal ones probably justify it through objectifying women.
06:56:39 <gadgetgrl> omg he's so much like penny arcade wahhahaha
06:56:48 <gadgetgrl> should start that flame war in the forus
06:56:49 <gadgetgrl> forums
06:57:49 <Puyopuyo> I don't think it'll work.
06:58:32 <Puyopuyo> I read the forum comments on the thread...most of them are arguing over who made the first topic for the comic.
06:59:29 <gadgetgrl> :/
06:59:39 <Puyopuyo> ...oh, and the other series of comments are "WHY DID HER LEGS VANISH IN PANEL 3?"
06:59:59 <Puyopuyo> Well, back to doing someone else's logic homework.
07:00:39 <Pipian> Night
07:01:40 <Puyopuyo> Night.
07:01:46 * Puyopuyo shrugs.
07:01:47 <gadgetgrl> night
07:02:02 <Puyopuyo> Clearly Jenn, you must suggest a webcomic that makes the channel feel less creeped out.
07:04:10 <gadgetgrl> it has to be a webcomic?
07:04:17 <gadgetgrl> b/c my initial reaction is chi's sweet home :p
07:04:27 <gadgetgrl> phd comic!
07:04:49 <gadgetgrl> http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
07:05:10 <gadgetgrl> my fav is a few days back...professor trading cards
07:06:36 <Puyopuyo> Ha ha. That's amusing.
13:45:55 <Pipian> Nathan won't appreciate them though!
14:10:53 <nathanbp> Ouch.
15:39:46 <Puyopuyo> !pointer
15:39:46 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T15-39-46
16:18:29 <gadgetgrl> !pointer
16:18:29 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T16-18-29
16:19:07 <gadgetgrl> ya know, they applied in undergrad too, surprisingly
16:20:00 <Puyopuyo> ???
16:20:01 <Pipian-Lab> To an extent, yeah.
16:20:14 <Pipian-Lab> But Nathan is no longer in either so
16:20:25 <Puyopuyo> Oh.
16:20:29 <Puyopuyo> Yes, Nathan is a working man.
16:22:06 <Puyopuyo> ...I'm inclined to make a Neil Young song reference, but as Ian's brother is the only one who would get it...
16:23:07 <Pipian-Lab> I'd probably get it anyway
16:24:10 <Puyopuyo> Do you know the song Tonight's the Night?
16:24:28 <Puyopuyo> As I was going to ask if Nathan sung songs as a direct follow up to him being a working man.
16:25:15 <Pipian-Lab> Not off the top of my head
16:28:55 <Puyopuyo> There we go, I suppose.
17:51:53 <Puyopuyo> http://twitpic.com/3xwe6h <- Wow. Nice. Getting the Sony advertising actor to retweet the key.
17:53:42 <Pipian-Lab> Yeah.
17:53:48 <Pipian-Lab> Count down to reprimand
17:54:10 <Puyopuyo> It got taken down immediately.
17:54:25 <Pipian-Lab> Can't say I'm surprised
20:54:18 <Puyopuyo> !pointer
20:54:18 <Sacchi> http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-09.html#T20-54-18
20:59:12 <Pipian-Lab> Yep
20:59:17 <Pipian-Lab> Exciting stuff since you left
21:01:21 <Puyopuyo> Indeed.
22:35:59 <Puyopuyo> Hrm. I think AIM died on me.
22:36:16 <gadgetgrl> you're back according to mine
22:36:34 <Puyopuyo> Yeah, no sooner do I complain than I respawn.
22:37:03 <Puyopuyo> Oh COME ON.
22:37:46 <Puyopuyo> Have a fun article: http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2011/02/super-nintendo-snes-games-that-pushed-the-limits-graphics-soun.html
23:32:52 <Puyopuyo> ....son of a.
23:33:12 <Puyopuyo> Ugh, gotta fucking find the right package for my new graphics card to get Debian to work in graphical mode again.