02:07:39 !pointer me Sacchi 02:07:39 http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T2-7-39 02:08:27 ...YOU DONE SHOPPED MY CITY. 02:08:38 AGHHHH. 02:08:50 So, I tried Mario Sports Mix. 02:08:59 It is much fun with other players. 02:09:11 But...it has a distinct lack of variety going for it, which is kind of annoying. 02:09:18 I can see it being good for a spin when friends come over. 02:09:35 So clearly we buy it for Jenn and play it when when go to her place. 02:14:37 http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-02-07/maryland-katsucon-revises-policy-on-fan-art <- Wow. Already cracking down on copyright for fan art. 02:15:07 Wonder how long they think people will attend if the artists aren't allowed to do pictures that people want... 02:15:43 That seems to imply that Katsucon backed out of their stance 02:17:30 ... 02:17:30 selling fan art is pretty clearly violating copyright tho >_> 02:17:30 Wow 02:17:42 There was a musical version of Flowers for Algernon 02:18:51 Nathan: Yes. But doujinshi and AMVs are okay? 02:18:56 That's a flagrant double-standard. 02:19:29 Ian: Yeah, Katsucon did, only because they realized that they were potentially badly hurting their con. 02:19:57 But other cons are cracking down too. I'm wondering how well the fandom can survive not having fan art, AMVs, or really the sort of fan-privileges they take for granted. 02:20:11 Hrm. Spaghetti sauce is probably reheated. Time for leftover night. 02:20:19 Considering that that is pretty much what fandom is about 02:20:24 Or rather 02:20:36 That is pretty much what keeps fans from not being annoyed by themselves 02:20:37 well AMVs are not being sold 02:20:52 It's true that (generally speaking) there's no monetary incentive. 02:21:55 That said 02:22:13 I'm still waiting for AMVs to get neutered 02:22:45 I find it rather funny that only Evanescence (and Linkin Park?) have ever actually explicitly addressed the issue 02:22:56 most bands don't care? 02:24:31 It's usually not the bands who do the whining though, as can be seen by YouTube 02:31:51 the record companies don't notice? I dunno 02:53:27 !pointer 02:53:27 http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T2-53-27 02:53:51 The recording companies had to have noticed. 02:53:56 I don't know why they haven't bothered. 02:54:05 Because it's not an MP3? 02:54:32 That's about the only argument that could be made 02:55:13 The bands have to ignore it or something, because again, it's unlicensed use of their songs. 02:55:41 The argument "there's no monetary exchange" doesn't really work for me. 02:56:04 Well 02:56:12 I'm not using it as a justification by any means 02:56:25 So much as a "cons don't care because people on average care less about it." 02:56:32 Whereas 02:56:33 Say 02:56:47 Cons might be under pressure from Japan via licensors 02:56:53 Regarding the art thing 02:59:37 ...look, you're going to see fan art of things like Sephiroth of Final Fantasy 7. Which has very little to do with anime...mostly video games. 03:00:45 I'd raise you Advent Children 03:00:47 But even without it 03:01:01 Games are only about 1/2 the output 03:02:02 I'd raise you every other Final Fantasy character. 03:02:05 Er, game. 03:02:08 It's ture. 03:02:09 *true. 03:02:21 But with restrictions like "No Fan Art Period", what's artists alley going to showcase? 03:02:40 People generally don't care for original characters unless you are either very, very good, or you draw their eye with fan works. 03:03:07 Exactly. 03:14:43 defoggggggggg! 03:14:54 Ugh. 03:15:02 Oh, right, I spent 3 hours discussing Pokemon. 03:15:11 Well it's only natural 03:15:14 March 5th is going to be ridiculous. Pokemon Company is taking over Rockefeller Center. 03:15:30 Good thing I'm not there?? 03:15:35 The Nintendo World Staff are going to try to get some more event Pokemon to hand out the following day. 03:15:46 Clearly. There will be Pokemon swag. 03:15:56 Of course 03:16:41 LIke I said 03:16:45 Good thing I'm not there 03:16:51 Or I wouldn't go into lab :o 03:16:53 can you emulate the wifi thing that gives you special pokemon? 03:17:04 Probably 03:17:29 I'd have to use akismet or something like that though. 03:17:43 And then play back packets as they're probably RSA encrypted 03:18:25 No. 03:18:37 You can emulate a distro card, but not the wifi. 03:18:48 That's the one thing that no one's EVER managed to successfully hack. 03:18:56 Eh 03:19:11 I mean, it's probably doable, but it's such a tremendous pain in the ass. 03:19:27 I got to the point of hacking up an old Wi-Fi Connector USB connection to broadcast download games 03:19:43 Yeah, that's generally what people get up to. 03:19:55 But the thing about wifi Pokemon is...why bother? You could just distro-card it. 03:20:17 http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/rt2570.php 03:20:29 Exactly. 03:20:32 Hell 03:20:35 Even with my bit 03:20:44 There has never been a discernable gain in that, because if you're going to hack Pokemon...so much easier to do it. 03:20:53 Do a Wifi download of the save, PokeSav up the right pokemon 03:21:03 And then effectively distribute as many as you want by trading. 03:21:19 They did that at PAX, I believe. 03:21:27 Some artists were handing out level 100 Magikarps with Hyperbeam. 03:21:43 Or abuse the RNG if you wan't legal pokes. 03:21:49 The entire problem is that there's no point. Hacked Pokemon are entirely worthless. 03:21:59 Eh 03:22:04 Not if you're careful in how you hack it 03:22:23 If you don't do obvious crap like sticking moves on pokemon that don't deserve them 03:22:29 No, even that. 03:22:38 My problem with Hacked Pokemon is that they ruin the game. 03:22:41 Oh 03:22:43 Well yeah 03:22:47 They're worthless. 03:23:01 You cannot have fair fights against people, because you made "optimized" Pokemon. 03:23:14 You can trade them around and GTS them, but for what? You can hack anything. 03:23:25 In hacking Pokemon, you've pretty much ended your game. 03:23:36 Exactly. 03:23:57 Only reason you'd hack up pokemon is if you were trying to short-cut the whole breeding step of trying to test out a team. 03:24:08 I used to use Shoddy for that. 03:24:32 And not just going ahead and using a simulator instead 03:31:57 Thanks MIT 03:32:22 For actually not making Nintendo DS's have to work through your silly MAC address filter 03:32:51 And just outright auto-permitting them 03:33:46 Unlike RPI! 03:34:38 Sam, there was a reason I hacked the Nintendo Wifi Connector to figure out its password 03:35:03 Or maybe that's why I had a network setting named ASDF 03:35:05 I can't remember 03:35:54 (Both) 03:37:09 ASDF was yours wasn't it? 03:38:00 Nope. 03:38:12 Who had that one then? 03:38:34 I do not remember. 03:39:01 yay world 500th heroic Chimaeron 10-man 03:39:34 woo 03:39:40 Now Heroic 25-man 03:40:05 what 03:40:15 We're only doing 10-mans this expac 03:40:25 the lockouts are exclusive 03:40:48 You are making those words up 03:40:51 They do not exist 03:40:57 Silly Nathan 03:41:16 ...expac? 03:41:23 expansion pack 03:42:32 I could say the same of your Pokemon talk Ian 03:42:39 ...also, what do you mean the lockouts are exclusive? 03:42:50 (What, am I the only one in the channel who speaks World of Pokemon?) 03:43:05 Jenn might? I don't 03:43:14 She speaks some of both. 03:43:21 You can only do the bosses on 10 or 25 man, not both 03:43:39 ....so if you've done the boss 10 man, you cannot do the boss 25? 03:43:49 each week 03:43:53 ..oy 03:43:58 nah it's really better 03:44:07 I suppose so. 03:44:08 than it was last expansion pack 03:44:11 i saw my name...now i must go towards the top to figure out why 03:44:20 Summary: 03:44:21 Ah 03:44:23 Do you speak WoW? 03:44:26 Do you speak Pokemon? 03:44:31 You can basically look for the little grey dashes in the scroll bar 03:44:37 They are kind of nice in Colloquy :o 03:45:32 dashes? o.O 03:45:39 i only have time stamps 03:46:02 * Puyopuyo likes his Date Time stamps 03:46:08 re: my name: yes, that's correct 03:46:27 ...what? 03:49:03 http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2011/02/dongin-game-and-why-it-might-be-dying.html <- Damn it Korea. 03:51:32 And why would Korea change? 03:51:54 You know the bigger names like those behind the Korean MMOs are going to fight against changing that 03:52:05 Killing your indie games is still a bad idea. 03:52:16 Eh 03:52:18 Who cares 03:52:33 (says a Korean game manufacturer and the government) 03:52:58 Well, hopefully their economy is perfectly fine with importing all of that Star Craft. 03:53:18 Well of course it is 03:53:21 Also 03:53:27 Their MMO industry seems to be alive and well 03:53:36 Their MMO industry is doing okay. 03:53:55 But if they lose their rights to broadcast and carefully groom their Star Craft teams to Blizzard...that'll hurt them badly. 03:54:42 Yeah, well that's just the cable channels who have to complain 03:55:02 Crass capitalism is the name of the game 03:55:08 Hey, that's a pretty significant chunk of their economy. 03:57:02 What 03:57:15 You think Blizzard's going to rock the boat about this Dongin crap? 03:57:17 Heck no 03:57:18 No. 03:57:20 They paid their fee 03:57:22 I was referring to Star Craft. 03:57:26 And they probably like it that way. 03:57:38 But yes, I've heard about them playing hardball with the cable companies 03:58:01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUJ_zS_6Ks4 <- I give up. Jenn, identify 11, 13 and 21 please! 03:59:10 why me? 03:59:27 Because Ian doesn't play video games and Nathan only plays WoW. 03:59:44 And you've played a bunch I haven't, so there is a chance you will recognize them. 03:59:48 If not, oh well, thanks anyway. 04:00:21 i can find out friday mst likely :p 04:00:33 Ian plays Pokemon? 04:00:51 ? Why Friday? 04:00:54 do they list what systems? 04:00:58 No. 04:01:19 It's something I'm doing for kicks, and Emily and I have figured out everything in that except those three. 04:01:24 And they look REALLY familiar, which is frustrating. 04:01:48 (Contest ends before then too, I think, so the answers'll be up by then.) 04:02:17 Friday? 04:02:19 Scott. 04:02:58 He won't get most of these. 04:03:02 I'm positive. 04:03:23 yeah, esp 13 04:03:36 checking on frank's roommate 04:03:41 13 looks like it'd be something like Harvest Moon 64 04:03:42 he'll probably know 11 and possibly 21 04:06:36 * Puyopuyo checks Harvest Moon 64's opening. 04:07:31 I mean, it probably isn't 04:07:50 Probably isn't, but we've tried many things in that vein. 04:07:59 Hilariously enough: WE FIGURED OUT THE FOOTBALL ONE. 04:08:05 That one was PAINFUL. 04:09:01 lol 04:09:01 (The Star Wars one also sucked. There are WAY too many Star Wars games) 04:09:19 I cannot sit through another Star Wars game intro. They ALL have the goddamn crawl. 04:09:27 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED 04:09:31 STAR WARS: TIE-FIGHTER 04:09:35 STAR WARS: WHY ARE YOU READING THIS? 04:10:33 wow I never even watch game openings... 04:11:01 I'm pretty sure one of these was a blizzard game too 04:11:40 Which number? 04:12:31 uhh don't remember 04:12:39 not one of the ones you didn't know 04:13:06 there was a zepplin and it looked kinda blizzardish 04:13:26 or maybe it was an airship and it's japanese 04:15:00 9? 04:20:49 haha 04:20:59 my brother just reminded me of the best/worst music synthesizer 04:21:41 Have you ever heard of Rock Rap'n Roll 04:23:42 No.... 04:24:43 It was 04:24:44 terrifying 04:24:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxGZfzSkAKM 04:30:12 ...hip help 04:30:22 What the crap Ian. 04:32:32 @Sam: yes, 9 04:32:53 Hey now 04:32:55 it was both hip 04:32:57 and helpful 04:33:06 I'd like to see you do better! 04:33:23 It's not Blizzard even though we initially thought it was. 04:33:30 It's amazingly enough, not even Japanese. 04:34:03 It IS a terrible game that few people have actually bothered playing. 04:36:30 now I'm curious 04:38:15 Emily figured it out while trying to figure out 21. 04:45:00 feedback! 04:45:14 #11 theory is call of duty 2 or one of the battlefield games 04:45:22 21 is 95% dark athena 04:46:04 We suspected that for 11. 04:46:10 Going to check Dark Athena's opening. 04:47:16 If it is, you and your connections roxxor, Jenn-re. 04:51:14 i'm excited to hear teh results 05:01:31 Why can I not stop watching a show about ponies 05:02:16 are you going to go back to collecting my little ponies? 05:03:07 no 05:04:11 Ian loves his ponies. 05:04:32 Actually 05:04:42 It might be a baby dragon wearing a mustache 05:04:45 I'm not entirely sure 05:05:16 But this show is more amusing than a show involving ponies has any right to be. 05:13:47 Effing finally. 05:13:48 Google 05:14:04 Why did you take nearly 2 months to plan a damn interview 05:19:35 b/c you're off season 05:19:44 and they have better things to organize 05:19:47 Actually 05:19:47 like spring internships 05:19:58 I don't think it's Dark Athena... 05:20:02 The reason is presumably because they're coming to campus Feb. 11 and decided to stall until then 05:20:04 But even so. 05:20:13 They could have said something. 05:20:21 Also, this was for an internship 05:24:13 Yeah. It's not Riddick: Dark Athena. 05:24:29 Good suggestion, but Riddick's hands are usually when he's walking...and none of the doors in the intro work like that. 05:28:44 * Puyopuyo sighs. 05:28:51 It was a really good shot. I'm sorry it wasn't it. 05:29:26 (Unless someone's got an intro video that I haven't seen that shows that door/shadow/circle door) 05:29:53 Hmm I think I'm reading The Name of the Wind /again/ since the sequel comes out March 1st 05:29:55 (finally!) 05:31:50 if only I could find my copy...need to buy bookshelves... 05:31:56 !pointer 05:31:56 http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T5-31-56 05:32:11 Guess it's still working after I logged off 05:32:16 Great to know 05:32:19 ...and then it gets delayed and Nathan completely loses it. 05:33:47 yeah... 05:33:50 ooh found it 05:33:52 700 pages 05:33:56 hope I can put it down 05:34:09 otherwise I will be very tired for work tomorrow 05:34:47 woo US 77th, World 341th >_>;; 05:39:24 10 to go? 05:39:58 This is quite possibly one of the coolest Google Doodles they've done yet. 05:40:20 only like 4 more bosses are actually killable on 10 man 05:40:50 that is pretty neat 05:41:07 Cousteau? 05:41:16 Really? The rest aren't doable except on 25 Heroic? 05:41:55 Ian: If that was re: Google, Jules Verne? 05:41:56 Either that or Verne? 05:42:04 click the middle 05:42:12 so far 7/13 have only been done on 25 heroic 05:42:20 In any case 05:42:24 The Pacman was pretty good 05:43:00 World's first! 05:44:56 Yeah Pacman was probably the best 05:45:04 I saved it 05:45:12 Except for the Flash audio 05:45:15 don't they have a page where you can view them all? 05:45:23 It was an impressive use of HTML5 05:46:03 yeah 06:15:02 http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=129769 06:15:08 If we're training to PAX East, that'll be handy. 06:17:51 Anyone training away from farther than DC is crazy 06:18:42 Haha 06:22:29 Which reminds me that I should make my plans for the 19th 06:26:29 Watgh. I need to buy tickets. 06:29:42 yeah, me too 06:29:52 i need to figure out who's on my train 06:30:01 I was referring to tickets for Time of Eve... 06:30:02 is your whole group training? 06:30:10 The ones I care about, yeah. 06:30:16 The rest are bussing or fending for themselves. 06:32:05 okay 06:32:11 so how many would you say are with you? 06:32:27 Emily, my friend Jennie...that's it off the top of my head. Maybe two more. 06:32:39 okay, cool 06:32:50 i have kathy with me...and i think that might be it 06:33:02 need to poke nathan about it... 06:33:05 Sam: Late Friday or Early Saturday? I'm probably leaving Sunday either way. This time I'm doing Amtrak despite the higher cost. I'm a bit tired of bussing this time around. 06:33:16 everyone else is flying/driving 06:36:20 For Eve no Jikan? 06:36:43 You two are talking about different things. My brain is trying to buffer... 06:36:58 Well, let's try to do a unified train on Friday, Jenn-re. 06:37:01 Ian what? 06:37:45 sounds good 06:38:32 I am talking about Eve 06:38:53 (i mean seriously why would i be talking about training to pax east that's just silly) 06:39:36 (i mean yes the red line is sorta kinda a train that goes underground for a lot of it, but the silver line is really just a glorified bus and i'm not planning on taking either so...) 06:54:14 But yeah 06:54:21 Would you rather I come in Friday night or Saturday morning? 06:54:37 It doesn't matter to me. Whichever is more convenient for you. 06:56:05 Prob. Friday night I think. Then I don't have to get up early (haha) 06:56:30 Also easier to drop my stuff off 06:56:43 Instead of training out to train back in 06:56:46 Or lugging it around all day 06:57:08 Sounds like a good plan. 06:57:45 Hm 06:57:49 That could be a problem 06:58:00 3DS comes out and I won't be in Boston until the day after 06:58:55 Oh well, so be it. 06:59:06 If they sell out and I have to wait, then they sell out and I have to wait 07:00:51 Don't think it's a huge fuss myself. 07:01:10 Still 07:01:14 Reserving one 07:01:23 And not picking it up until the day after can sometimes be problematic. 07:02:39 (Doubly uncool because otherwise I'd have a 3DS to take straight on the plane with me in Portland, but there's probably just barely not enough time to pick one up before my flight at noon) 07:02:52 (Not that I'm getting any launch games but hey) 07:03:31 Well, I wish you luck. 07:03:42 I assume that Gamestop pre-orders aren't transferrable between Gamestops? 07:03:57 That's an excellent question, but probably not easily 07:03:59 I mean 07:04:07 The idea is that they know how many to ship to each one, right? 07:04:40 Oh there it is 07:04:47 48 hours after release 07:04:49 Not 24 07:04:57 Is how long they claim they'll hold on to them 07:06:02 Per the receipt 07:07:11 Well, Gamestop is known to be full of bullshit. 07:07:16 So I wish you luck. Again. 07:07:26 This is also true. 07:07:33 So it really doesn't matter 07:07:42 Because it's entirely possible they bullshit and say it's transferrable too 07:08:20 And suppose that it IS a hot item 07:08:28 Then they love to change the rules because of that 07:10:12 Definitely. 07:10:59 I suppose I should consider myself lucky that I suspect I picked the marginally less popular color, in so far as a color can be considered less popular should they sell out at launch. 07:11:33 (So, not that it will make any difference) 07:14:56 Indeed. 07:16:37 i went the mail route...i cross my fingers the mail service isn't messed up 07:17:40 I mean, it's not like the pink GBA... 07:17:44 And I'm not buying one at lanuch. 07:17:45 *launch 07:18:41 Like I said 07:19:26 With my not getting any launch games, it's not ABSOLUTELY time-critical 07:35:15 any thoughts on what iwata is going to announce at gdc? 07:37:10 He'll shoot you all with a Nintendo Mind Ray. 07:37:18 And the new age of video games will have begun. 07:48:14 Night 13:40:02 Ohh, Mistakes of Youth (this week's comic: Madoka Magica) 15:53:00 Heh 15:53:02 Oh Sony 15:53:13 Why do you think you can still put the genie back into the bottle 15:56:22 Suing for people's identities. 15:56:38 And I KNOW some of them live in Sweden and other countries with a strong backing on Piracy. 15:57:46 Actually 15:57:49 I was going more for the 15:57:57 "We will sue anyone who even discusses the hack" thing 15:58:04 Yeah, I'm waiting for Nathan to buy another shirt. 16:05:09 We can only assume that he's waiting for it to be made 16:08:28 Probably. 16:46:16 !pointer 16:46:16 http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T16-46-16 19:18:02 Time Warner is really sucking these past two days 19:18:44 Ugh 19:34:53 http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/08/report-hudson-entertainment-shut-down/ <- Great. 19:35:00 I LIKE Bomberman. 19:46:13 They'll just release it via Konami? 19:48:46 Bomberman 3DS yes. But the future doesn't look so hot. 19:49:43 I'm not entirely convinced 19:49:50 What did Hudson Entertainment exactly DO? 19:49:57