IRC log of Cochineal on 2011-02-08

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02:07:39 [Puyopuyo]!pointer me Sacchi
02:07:39 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T2-7-39
02:08:27 [Puyopuyo]...YOU DONE SHOPPED MY CITY.
02:08:38 [Puyopuyo]AGHHHH.
02:08:50 [Puyopuyo]So, I tried Mario Sports Mix.
02:08:59 [Puyopuyo]It is much fun with other players.
02:09:11 [Puyopuyo]But...it has a distinct lack of variety going for it, which is kind of annoying.
02:09:18 [Puyopuyo]I can see it being good for a spin when friends come over.
02:09:35 [Puyopuyo]So clearly we buy it for Jenn and play it when when go to her place.
02:14:37 [Puyopuyo]http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-02-07/maryland-katsucon-revises-policy-on-fan-art <- Wow. Already cracking down on copyright for fan art.
02:15:07 [Puyopuyo]Wonder how long they think people will attend if the artists aren't allowed to do pictures that people want...
02:15:43 [Pipian]That seems to imply that Katsucon backed out of their stance
02:17:30 [Pipian]...
02:17:30 [nathanbp]selling fan art is pretty clearly violating copyright tho >_>
02:17:30 [Pipian]Wow
02:17:42 [Pipian]There was a musical version of Flowers for Algernon
02:18:51 [Puyopuyo]Nathan: Yes. But doujinshi and AMVs are okay?
02:18:56 [Puyopuyo]That's a flagrant double-standard.
02:19:29 [Puyopuyo]Ian: Yeah, Katsucon did, only because they realized that they were potentially badly hurting their con.
02:19:57 [Puyopuyo]But other cons are cracking down too. I'm wondering how well the fandom can survive not having fan art, AMVs, or really the sort of fan-privileges they take for granted.
02:20:11 [Puyopuyo]Hrm. Spaghetti sauce is probably reheated. Time for leftover night.
02:20:19 [Pipian]Considering that that is pretty much what fandom is about
02:20:24 [Pipian]Or rather
02:20:36 [Pipian]That is pretty much what keeps fans from not being annoyed by themselves
02:20:37 [nathanbp]well AMVs are not being sold
02:20:52 [Pipian]It's true that (generally speaking) there's no monetary incentive.
02:21:55 [Pipian]That said
02:22:13 [Pipian]I'm still waiting for AMVs to get neutered
02:22:45 [Pipian]I find it rather funny that only Evanescence (and Linkin Park?) have ever actually explicitly addressed the issue
02:22:56 [nathanbp]most bands don't care?
02:24:31 [Pipian]It's usually not the bands who do the whining though, as can be seen by YouTube
02:31:51 [nathanbp]the record companies don't notice? I dunno
02:53:27 [Puyopuyo]!pointer
02:53:27 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T2-53-27
02:53:51 [Puyopuyo]The recording companies had to have noticed.
02:53:56 [Puyopuyo]I don't know why they haven't bothered.
02:54:05 [Puyopuyo]Because it's not an MP3?
02:54:32 [Pipian]That's about the only argument that could be made
02:55:13 [Puyopuyo]The bands have to ignore it or something, because again, it's unlicensed use of their songs.
02:55:41 [Puyopuyo]The argument "there's no monetary exchange" doesn't really work for me.
02:56:04 [Pipian]Well
02:56:12 [Pipian]I'm not using it as a justification by any means
02:56:25 [Pipian]So much as a "cons don't care because people on average care less about it."
02:56:32 [Pipian]Whereas
02:56:33 [Pipian]Say
02:56:47 [Pipian]Cons might be under pressure from Japan via licensors
02:56:53 [Pipian]Regarding the art thing
02:59:37 [Puyopuyo]...look, you're going to see fan art of things like Sephiroth of Final Fantasy 7. Which has very little to do with anime...mostly video games.
03:00:45 [Pipian]I'd raise you Advent Children
03:00:47 [Pipian]But even without it
03:01:01 [Pipian]Games are only about 1/2 the output
03:02:02 [Puyopuyo]I'd raise you every other Final Fantasy character.
03:02:05 [Puyopuyo]Er, game.
03:02:08 [Puyopuyo]It's ture.
03:02:09 [Puyopuyo]*true.
03:02:21 [Puyopuyo]But with restrictions like "No Fan Art Period", what's artists alley going to showcase?
03:02:40 [Puyopuyo]People generally don't care for original characters unless you are either very, very good, or you draw their eye with fan works.
03:03:07 [Pipian]Exactly.
03:14:43 [Pipian]defoggggggggg!
03:14:54 [Puyopuyo]Ugh.
03:15:02 [Puyopuyo]Oh, right, I spent 3 hours discussing Pokemon.
03:15:11 [Pipian]Well it's only natural
03:15:14 [Puyopuyo]March 5th is going to be ridiculous. Pokemon Company is taking over Rockefeller Center.
03:15:30 [Pipian]Good thing I'm not there??
03:15:35 [Puyopuyo]The Nintendo World Staff are going to try to get some more event Pokemon to hand out the following day.
03:15:46 [Puyopuyo]Clearly. There will be Pokemon swag.
03:15:56 [Pipian]Of course
03:16:41 [Pipian]LIke I said
03:16:45 [Pipian]Good thing I'm not there
03:16:51 [Pipian]Or I wouldn't go into lab :o
03:16:53 [nathanbp]can you emulate the wifi thing that gives you special pokemon?
03:17:04 [Pipian]Probably
03:17:29 [Pipian]I'd have to use akismet or something like that though.
03:17:43 [Pipian]And then play back packets as they're probably RSA encrypted
03:18:25 [Puyopuyo]No.
03:18:37 [Puyopuyo]You can emulate a distro card, but not the wifi.
03:18:48 [Puyopuyo]That's the one thing that no one's EVER managed to successfully hack.
03:18:56 [Pipian]Eh
03:19:11 [Puyopuyo]I mean, it's probably doable, but it's such a tremendous pain in the ass.
03:19:27 [Pipian]I got to the point of hacking up an old Wi-Fi Connector USB connection to broadcast download games
03:19:43 [Puyopuyo]Yeah, that's generally what people get up to.
03:19:55 [Puyopuyo]But the thing about wifi Pokemon is...why bother? You could just distro-card it.
03:20:17 [Pipian]http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/rt2570.php
03:20:29 [Pipian]Exactly.
03:20:32 [Pipian]Hell
03:20:35 [Pipian]Even with my bit
03:20:44 [Puyopuyo]There has never been a discernable gain in that, because if you're going to hack Pokemon...so much easier to do it.
03:20:53 [Pipian]Do a Wifi download of the save, PokeSav up the right pokemon
03:21:03 [Pipian]And then effectively distribute as many as you want by trading.
03:21:19 [Puyopuyo]They did that at PAX, I believe.
03:21:27 [Puyopuyo]Some artists were handing out level 100 Magikarps with Hyperbeam.
03:21:43 [Pipian]Or abuse the RNG if you wan't legal pokes.
03:21:49 [Puyopuyo]The entire problem is that there's no point. Hacked Pokemon are entirely worthless.
03:21:59 [Pipian]Eh
03:22:04 [Pipian]Not if you're careful in how you hack it
03:22:23 [Pipian]If you don't do obvious crap like sticking moves on pokemon that don't deserve them
03:22:29 [Puyopuyo]No, even that.
03:22:38 [Puyopuyo]My problem with Hacked Pokemon is that they ruin the game.
03:22:41 [Pipian]Oh
03:22:43 [Pipian]Well yeah
03:22:47 [Puyopuyo]They're worthless.
03:23:01 [Puyopuyo]You cannot have fair fights against people, because you made "optimized" Pokemon.
03:23:14 [Puyopuyo]You can trade them around and GTS them, but for what? You can hack anything.
03:23:25 [Puyopuyo]In hacking Pokemon, you've pretty much ended your game.
03:23:36 [Pipian]Exactly.
03:23:57 [Pipian]Only reason you'd hack up pokemon is if you were trying to short-cut the whole breeding step of trying to test out a team.
03:24:08 [Puyopuyo]I used to use Shoddy for that.
03:24:32 [Pipian]And not just going ahead and using a simulator instead
03:31:57 [Pipian]Thanks MIT
03:32:22 [Pipian]For actually not making Nintendo DS's have to work through your silly MAC address filter
03:32:51 [Pipian]And just outright auto-permitting them
03:33:46 [Puyopuyo]Unlike RPI!
03:34:38 [Pipian]Sam, there was a reason I hacked the Nintendo Wifi Connector to figure out its password
03:35:03 [Pipian]Or maybe that's why I had a network setting named ASDF
03:35:05 [Pipian]I can't remember
03:35:54 [Puyopuyo](Both)
03:37:09 [Pipian]ASDF was yours wasn't it?
03:38:00 [Puyopuyo]Nope.
03:38:12 [Pipian]Who had that one then?
03:38:34 [Puyopuyo]I do not remember.
03:39:01 [nathanbp]yay world 500th heroic Chimaeron 10-man
03:39:34 [Puyopuyo]woo
03:39:40 [Puyopuyo]Now Heroic 25-man
03:40:05 [Pipian]what
03:40:15 [nathanbp]We're only doing 10-mans this expac
03:40:25 [nathanbp]the lockouts are exclusive
03:40:48 [Pipian]You are making those words up
03:40:51 [Pipian]They do not exist
03:40:57 [Pipian]Silly Nathan
03:41:16 [Puyopuyo]...expac?
03:41:23 [nathanbp]expansion pack
03:42:32 [nathanbp]I could say the same of your Pokemon talk Ian
03:42:39 [Puyopuyo]...also, what do you mean the lockouts are exclusive?
03:42:50 [Puyopuyo](What, am I the only one in the channel who speaks World of Pokemon?)
03:43:05 [nathanbp]Jenn might? I don't
03:43:14 [Puyopuyo]She speaks some of both.
03:43:21 [nathanbp]You can only do the bosses on 10 or 25 man, not both
03:43:39 [Puyopuyo]....so if you've done the boss 10 man, you cannot do the boss 25?
03:43:49 [nathanbp]each week
03:43:53 [Puyopuyo]..oy
03:43:58 [nathanbp]nah it's really better
03:44:07 [Puyopuyo]I suppose so.
03:44:08 [nathanbp]than it was last expansion pack
03:44:11 [gadgetgrl]i saw my name...now i must go towards the top to figure out why
03:44:20 [Puyopuyo]Summary:
03:44:21 [Pipian]Ah
03:44:23 [Puyopuyo]Do you speak WoW?
03:44:26 [Puyopuyo]Do you speak Pokemon?
03:44:31 [Pipian]You can basically look for the little grey dashes in the scroll bar
03:44:37 [Pipian]They are kind of nice in Colloquy :o
03:45:32 [gadgetgrl]dashes? o.O
03:45:39 [gadgetgrl]i only have time stamps
03:46:02 [Puyopuyo]* Puyopuyo likes his Date Time stamps
03:46:08 [gadgetgrl]re: my name: yes, that's correct
03:46:27 [Puyopuyo]...what?
03:49:03 [Puyopuyo]http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2011/02/dongin-game-and-why-it-might-be-dying.html <- Damn it Korea.
03:51:32 [Pipian]And why would Korea change?
03:51:54 [Pipian]You know the bigger names like those behind the Korean MMOs are going to fight against changing that
03:52:05 [Puyopuyo]Killing your indie games is still a bad idea.
03:52:16 [Pipian]Eh
03:52:18 [Pipian]Who cares
03:52:33 [Pipian](says a Korean game manufacturer and the government)
03:52:58 [Puyopuyo]Well, hopefully their economy is perfectly fine with importing all of that Star Craft.
03:53:18 [Pipian]Well of course it is
03:53:21 [Pipian]Also
03:53:27 [Pipian]Their MMO industry seems to be alive and well
03:53:36 [Puyopuyo]Their MMO industry is doing okay.
03:53:55 [Puyopuyo]But if they lose their rights to broadcast and carefully groom their Star Craft teams to Blizzard...that'll hurt them badly.
03:54:42 [Pipian]Yeah, well that's just the cable channels who have to complain
03:55:02 [Pipian]Crass capitalism is the name of the game
03:55:08 [Puyopuyo]Hey, that's a pretty significant chunk of their economy.
03:57:02 [Pipian]What
03:57:15 [Pipian]You think Blizzard's going to rock the boat about this Dongin crap?
03:57:17 [Pipian]Heck no
03:57:18 [Puyopuyo]No.
03:57:20 [Pipian]They paid their fee
03:57:22 [Puyopuyo]I was referring to Star Craft.
03:57:26 [Pipian]And they probably like it that way.
03:57:38 [Pipian]But yes, I've heard about them playing hardball with the cable companies
03:58:01 [Puyopuyo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUJ_zS_6Ks4 <- I give up. Jenn, identify 11, 13 and 21 please!
03:59:10 [gadgetgrl]why me?
03:59:27 [Puyopuyo]Because Ian doesn't play video games and Nathan only plays WoW.
03:59:44 [Puyopuyo]And you've played a bunch I haven't, so there is a chance you will recognize them.
03:59:48 [Puyopuyo]If not, oh well, thanks anyway.
04:00:21 [gadgetgrl]i can find out friday mst likely :p
04:00:33 [nathanbp]Ian plays Pokemon?
04:00:51 [Puyopuyo]? Why Friday?
04:00:54 [gadgetgrl]do they list what systems?
04:00:58 [Puyopuyo]No.
04:01:19 [Puyopuyo]It's something I'm doing for kicks, and Emily and I have figured out everything in that except those three.
04:01:24 [Puyopuyo]And they look REALLY familiar, which is frustrating.
04:01:48 [Puyopuyo](Contest ends before then too, I think, so the answers'll be up by then.)
04:02:17 [Pipian]Friday?
04:02:19 [Pipian]Scott.
04:02:58 [Puyopuyo]He won't get most of these.
04:03:02 [Puyopuyo]I'm positive.
04:03:23 [gadgetgrl]yeah, esp 13
04:03:36 [gadgetgrl]checking on frank's roommate
04:03:41 [Pipian]13 looks like it'd be something like Harvest Moon 64
04:03:42 [gadgetgrl]he'll probably know 11 and possibly 21
04:06:36 [Puyopuyo]* Puyopuyo checks Harvest Moon 64's opening.
04:07:31 [Pipian]I mean, it probably isn't
04:07:50 [Puyopuyo]Probably isn't, but we've tried many things in that vein.
04:07:59 [Puyopuyo]Hilariously enough: WE FIGURED OUT THE FOOTBALL ONE.
04:08:05 [Puyopuyo]That one was PAINFUL.
04:09:01 [gadgetgrl]lol
04:09:01 [Puyopuyo](The Star Wars one also sucked. There are WAY too many Star Wars games)
04:09:19 [Puyopuyo]I cannot sit through another Star Wars game intro. They ALL have the goddamn crawl.
04:09:27 [Puyopuyo]STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED
04:09:31 [Puyopuyo]STAR WARS: TIE-FIGHTER
04:09:35 [Puyopuyo]STAR WARS: WHY ARE YOU READING THIS?
04:10:33 [nathanbp]wow I never even watch game openings...
04:11:01 [nathanbp]I'm pretty sure one of these was a blizzard game too
04:11:40 [Puyopuyo]Which number?
04:12:31 [nathanbp]uhh don't remember
04:12:39 [nathanbp]not one of the ones you didn't know
04:13:06 [nathanbp]there was a zepplin and it looked kinda blizzardish
04:13:26 [nathanbp]or maybe it was an airship and it's japanese
04:15:00 [Puyopuyo]9?
04:20:49 [Pipian]haha
04:20:59 [Pipian]my brother just reminded me of the best/worst music synthesizer
04:21:41 [Pipian]Have you ever heard of Rock Rap'n Roll
04:23:42 [Puyopuyo]No....
04:24:43 [Pipian]It was
04:24:44 [Pipian]terrifying
04:24:51 [Pipian]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxGZfzSkAKM
04:30:12 [Puyopuyo]...hip help
04:30:22 [Puyopuyo]What the crap Ian.
04:32:32 [nathanbp]@Sam: yes, 9
04:32:53 [Pipian]Hey now
04:32:55 [Pipian]it was both hip
04:32:57 [Pipian]and helpful
04:33:06 [Pipian]I'd like to see you do better!
04:33:23 [Puyopuyo]It's not Blizzard even though we initially thought it was.
04:33:30 [Puyopuyo]It's amazingly enough, not even Japanese.
04:34:03 [Puyopuyo]It IS a terrible game that few people have actually bothered playing.
04:36:30 [nathanbp]now I'm curious
04:38:15 [Puyopuyo]Emily figured it out while trying to figure out 21.
04:45:00 [gadgetgrl]feedback!
04:45:14 [gadgetgrl]#11 theory is call of duty 2 or one of the battlefield games
04:45:22 [gadgetgrl]21 is 95% dark athena
04:46:04 [Puyopuyo]We suspected that for 11.
04:46:10 [Puyopuyo]Going to check Dark Athena's opening.
04:47:16 [Puyopuyo]If it is, you and your connections roxxor, Jenn-re.
04:51:14 [gadgetgrl]i'm excited to hear teh results
05:01:31 [Pipian]Why can I not stop watching a show about ponies
05:02:16 [gadgetgrl]are you going to go back to collecting my little ponies?
05:03:07 [Pipian]no
05:04:11 [Puyopuyo]Ian loves his ponies.
05:04:32 [Pipian]Actually
05:04:42 [Pipian]It might be a baby dragon wearing a mustache
05:04:45 [Pipian]I'm not entirely sure
05:05:16 [Pipian]But this show is more amusing than a show involving ponies has any right to be.
05:13:47 [Pipian]Effing finally.
05:13:48 [Pipian]Google
05:14:04 [Pipian]Why did you take nearly 2 months to plan a damn interview
05:19:35 [gadgetgrl]b/c you're off season
05:19:44 [gadgetgrl]and they have better things to organize
05:19:47 [Pipian]Actually
05:19:47 [gadgetgrl]like spring internships
05:19:58 [Puyopuyo]I don't think it's Dark Athena...
05:20:02 [Pipian]The reason is presumably because they're coming to campus Feb. 11 and decided to stall until then
05:20:04 [Pipian]But even so.
05:20:13 [Pipian]They could have said something.
05:20:21 [Pipian]Also, this was for an internship
05:24:13 [Puyopuyo]Yeah. It's not Riddick: Dark Athena.
05:24:29 [Puyopuyo]Good suggestion, but Riddick's hands are usually when he's walking...and none of the doors in the intro work like that.
05:28:44 [Puyopuyo]* Puyopuyo sighs.
05:28:51 [Puyopuyo]It was a really good shot. I'm sorry it wasn't it.
05:29:26 [Puyopuyo](Unless someone's got an intro video that I haven't seen that shows that door/shadow/circle door)
05:29:53 [nathanbp]Hmm I think I'm reading The Name of the Wind /again/ since the sequel comes out March 1st
05:29:55 [nathanbp](finally!)
05:31:50 [nathanbp]if only I could find my copy...need to buy bookshelves...
05:31:56 [Pipian]!pointer
05:31:56 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T5-31-56
05:32:11 [Pipian]Guess it's still working after I logged off
05:32:16 [Pipian]Great to know
05:32:19 [Puyopuyo]...and then it gets delayed and Nathan completely loses it.
05:33:47 [nathanbp]yeah...
05:33:50 [nathanbp]ooh found it
05:33:52 [nathanbp]700 pages
05:33:56 [nathanbp]hope I can put it down
05:34:09 [nathanbp]otherwise I will be very tired for work tomorrow
05:34:47 [nathanbp]woo US 77th, World 341th >_>;;
05:39:24 [Puyopuyo]10 to go?
05:39:58 [Puyopuyo]This is quite possibly one of the coolest Google Doodles they've done yet.
05:40:20 [nathanbp]only like 4 more bosses are actually killable on 10 man
05:40:50 [nathanbp]that is pretty neat
05:41:07 [Pipian]Cousteau?
05:41:16 [Puyopuyo]Really? The rest aren't doable except on 25 Heroic?
05:41:55 [nathanbp]Ian: If that was re: Google, Jules Verne?
05:41:56 [Pipian]Either that or Verne?
05:42:04 [nathanbp]click the middle
05:42:12 [nathanbp]so far 7/13 have only been done on 25 heroic
05:42:20 [Pipian]In any case
05:42:24 [Pipian]The Pacman was pretty good
05:43:00 [Puyopuyo]World's first!
05:44:56 [nathanbp]Yeah Pacman was probably the best
05:45:04 [Pipian]I saved it
05:45:12 [Pipian]Except for the Flash audio
05:45:15 [nathanbp]don't they have a page where you can view them all?
05:45:23 [Pipian]It was an impressive use of HTML5
05:46:03 [nathanbp]yeah
06:15:02 [Puyopuyo]http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=129769
06:15:08 [Puyopuyo]If we're training to PAX East, that'll be handy.
06:17:51 [Pipian]Anyone training away from farther than DC is crazy
06:18:42 [Puyopuyo]Haha
06:22:29 [Pipian]Which reminds me that I should make my plans for the 19th
06:26:29 [Puyopuyo]Watgh. I need to buy tickets.
06:29:42 [gadgetgrl]yeah, me too
06:29:52 [gadgetgrl]i need to figure out who's on my train
06:30:01 [Puyopuyo]I was referring to tickets for Time of Eve...
06:30:02 [gadgetgrl]is your whole group training?
06:30:10 [Puyopuyo]The ones I care about, yeah.
06:30:16 [Puyopuyo]The rest are bussing or fending for themselves.
06:32:05 [gadgetgrl]okay
06:32:11 [gadgetgrl]so how many would you say are with you?
06:32:27 [Puyopuyo]Emily, my friend Jennie...that's it off the top of my head. Maybe two more.
06:32:39 [gadgetgrl]okay, cool
06:32:50 [gadgetgrl]i have kathy with me...and i think that might be it
06:33:02 [gadgetgrl]need to poke nathan about it...
06:33:05 [Pipian]Sam: Late Friday or Early Saturday? I'm probably leaving Sunday either way. This time I'm doing Amtrak despite the higher cost. I'm a bit tired of bussing this time around.
06:33:16 [gadgetgrl]everyone else is flying/driving
06:36:20 [Puyopuyo]For Eve no Jikan?
06:36:43 [Puyopuyo]You two are talking about different things. My brain is trying to buffer...
06:36:58 [Puyopuyo]Well, let's try to do a unified train on Friday, Jenn-re.
06:37:01 [Puyopuyo]Ian what?
06:37:45 [gadgetgrl]sounds good
06:38:32 [Pipian]I am talking about Eve
06:38:53 [Pipian](i mean seriously why would i be talking about training to pax east that's just silly)
06:39:36 [Pipian](i mean yes the red line is sorta kinda a train that goes underground for a lot of it, but the silver line is really just a glorified bus and i'm not planning on taking either so...)
06:54:14 [Pipian]But yeah
06:54:21 [Pipian]Would you rather I come in Friday night or Saturday morning?
06:54:37 [Puyopuyo]It doesn't matter to me. Whichever is more convenient for you.
06:56:05 [Pipian]Prob. Friday night I think. Then I don't have to get up early (haha)
06:56:30 [Pipian]Also easier to drop my stuff off
06:56:43 [Pipian]Instead of training out to train back in
06:56:46 [Pipian]Or lugging it around all day
06:57:08 [Puyopuyo]Sounds like a good plan.
06:57:45 [Pipian]Hm
06:57:49 [Pipian]That could be a problem
06:58:00 [Pipian]3DS comes out and I won't be in Boston until the day after
06:58:55 [Pipian]Oh well, so be it.
06:59:06 [Pipian]If they sell out and I have to wait, then they sell out and I have to wait
07:00:51 [Puyopuyo]Don't think it's a huge fuss myself.
07:01:10 [Pipian]Still
07:01:14 [Pipian]Reserving one
07:01:23 [Pipian]And not picking it up until the day after can sometimes be problematic.
07:02:39 [Pipian](Doubly uncool because otherwise I'd have a 3DS to take straight on the plane with me in Portland, but there's probably just barely not enough time to pick one up before my flight at noon)
07:02:52 [Pipian](Not that I'm getting any launch games but hey)
07:03:31 [Puyopuyo]Well, I wish you luck.
07:03:42 [Puyopuyo]I assume that Gamestop pre-orders aren't transferrable between Gamestops?
07:03:57 [Pipian]That's an excellent question, but probably not easily
07:03:59 [Pipian]I mean
07:04:07 [Pipian]The idea is that they know how many to ship to each one, right?
07:04:40 [Pipian]Oh there it is
07:04:47 [Pipian]48 hours after release
07:04:49 [Pipian]Not 24
07:04:57 [Pipian]Is how long they claim they'll hold on to them
07:06:02 [Pipian]Per the receipt
07:07:11 [Puyopuyo]Well, Gamestop is known to be full of bullshit.
07:07:16 [Puyopuyo]So I wish you luck. Again.
07:07:26 [Pipian]This is also true.
07:07:33 [Pipian]So it really doesn't matter
07:07:42 [Pipian]Because it's entirely possible they bullshit and say it's transferrable too
07:08:20 [Pipian]And suppose that it IS a hot item
07:08:28 [Pipian]Then they love to change the rules because of that
07:10:12 [Puyopuyo]Definitely.
07:10:59 [Pipian]I suppose I should consider myself lucky that I suspect I picked the marginally less popular color, in so far as a color can be considered less popular should they sell out at launch.
07:11:33 [Pipian](So, not that it will make any difference)
07:14:56 [Puyopuyo]Indeed.
07:16:37 [gadgetgrl]i went the mail route...i cross my fingers the mail service isn't messed up
07:17:40 [Puyopuyo]I mean, it's not like the pink GBA...
07:17:44 [Puyopuyo]And I'm not buying one at lanuch.
07:17:45 [Puyopuyo]*launch
07:18:41 [Pipian]Like I said
07:19:26 [Pipian]With my not getting any launch games, it's not ABSOLUTELY time-critical
07:35:15 [gadgetgrl]any thoughts on what iwata is going to announce at gdc?
07:37:10 [Puyopuyo]He'll shoot you all with a Nintendo Mind Ray.
07:37:18 [Puyopuyo]And the new age of video games will have begun.
07:48:14 [Pipian]Night
13:40:02 [nathanbp]Ohh, Mistakes of Youth (this week's comic: Madoka Magica)
15:53:00 [Pipian-Lab]Heh
15:53:02 [Pipian-Lab]Oh Sony
15:53:13 [Pipian-Lab]Why do you think you can still put the genie back into the bottle
15:56:22 [Puyopuyo]Suing for people's identities.
15:56:38 [Puyopuyo]And I KNOW some of them live in Sweden and other countries with a strong backing on Piracy.
15:57:46 [Pipian-Lab]Actually
15:57:49 [Pipian-Lab]I was going more for the
15:57:57 [Pipian-Lab]"We will sue anyone who even discusses the hack" thing
15:58:04 [Puyopuyo]Yeah, I'm waiting for Nathan to buy another shirt.
16:05:09 [Pipian-Lab]We can only assume that he's waiting for it to be made
16:08:28 [Puyopuyo]Probably.
16:46:16 [gadgetgrl]!pointer
16:46:16 [Sacchi]http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T16-46-16
19:18:02 [gadgetgrl]Time Warner is really sucking these past two days
19:18:44 [Puyopuyo]Ugh
19:34:53 [Puyopuyo]http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/08/report-hudson-entertainment-shut-down/ <- Great.
19:35:00 [Puyopuyo]I LIKE Bomberman.
19:46:13 [Pipian-Lab]They'll just release it via Konami?
19:48:46 [Puyopuyo]Bomberman 3DS yes. But the future doesn't look so hot.
19:49:43 [Pipian-Lab]I'm not entirely convinced
19:49:50 [Pipian-Lab]What did Hudson Entertainment exactly DO?
19:49:57 [Pipian-Lab]Hudsonsoft developed Bomberman
19:49:59 [Pipian-Lab]Fine
19:50:07 [Pipian-Lab]But Hudson Entertainment -- The American arm?
19:50:40 [Pipian-Lab]Hudson Entertainment didn't even exist until 2003.
19:50:53 [Puyopuyo]They were Hudson USA before then.
19:51:21 [Pipian-Lab]According to Wikipedia, Hudson had no American arm between 1995 and 2003.
19:51:29 [Puyopuyo]It's true.
19:51:37 [Puyopuyo]But Hudson Soft USA was there from 88 to 95
19:52:10 [Puyopuyo]The other real problem though is that this is a direct result of Konami completely buying out Hudson.
19:52:17 [Pipian-Lab]I mean
19:52:22 [Pipian-Lab]Is Bomberman that unpopular
19:52:24 [Pipian-Lab]for example
19:52:37 [Pipian-Lab]Why wouldn't they keep using the character / game concept?
19:52:44 [Puyopuyo]So as it's no longer a separate entity, none of the Hudson IPs will probably have any real emphasis. I believe Konami wants Hudson to be working on "social games", like cellphone and facebook.
19:52:55 [Pipian-Lab]Eeh
19:52:57 [Puyopuyo]Because it doesn't million sell?
19:53:08 [Pipian-Lab]They'll just pass off the character to some B-team of Konami's
19:53:15 [Pipian-Lab]And ruin the series
19:53:23 [Pipian-Lab]But that's not to say that they'll kill it.
19:53:24 [Pipian-Lab]I mean
19:53:24 [Puyopuyo]After Bomberman: Act Zero, that'll be impressive.
19:53:26 [Pipian-Lab]Look at Sonic
19:53:32 [Puyopuyo]Colors was legitimately good.
19:54:20 [Pipian-Lab]They just put out Bomberman Live: Battlefest on all the major DLC platforms
19:54:46 [Pipian-Lab]And that was already farmed out before the merger
19:55:00 [Pipian-Lab](To an American company)
19:55:12 [Pipian-Lab]To think that Konami won't milk a franchise like Bomberman is a little crazy
19:55:13 [Puyopuyo](It's also pretty lousy.)
19:55:17 [Puyopuyo]Oh, they will.
19:55:26 [Puyopuyo]But Bomberman 3DS looked like it was going to be like Bomberman 64.
19:55:40 [Puyopuyo]An actual Bomberman Adventure the likes of which we haven't seen in years.
19:56:31 [Pipian-Lab]*shrug*
19:56:33 [Pipian-Lab]So it goes.
19:56:49 [Pipian-Lab]If it's successful, Konami will be inclined to make more
19:56:51 [Pipian-Lab]If it's not
19:57:06 [Pipian-Lab]Well then it's a series of more lousy games.
19:57:18 [Pipian-Lab]But it's not going to die.
19:57:25 [Pipian-Lab]If Kid Icarus can't die
19:57:30 [Pipian-Lab]There's no way Bomberman will.
19:57:45 [Pipian-Lab]It'll just live the ignominious half-dead life that most Sonic games live.
19:58:23 [Pipian-Lab]Which it sounds like it was living already
19:58:34 [Pipian-Lab]So it really doesn't sound like a change??
19:58:49 [Puyopuyo]Kid Icarus was DEAD.
19:59:13 [Pipian-Lab]Exactly.
20:00:03 [Pipian-Lab]I don't think it will make a substantive change, except that maybe fewer Bomberman clunkers will be released each year.
20:00:13 [Pipian-Lab]But to think they won't keep coming seems naive to me.
20:00:38 [Puyopuyo]In the sense of attempting adventure Bomberman games? I think they'll be gone after 3DS unless it sells like no Bomberman has ever sold.
20:01:01 [Pipian-Lab]You mean they attempted adventure Bomberman games since Bomberman Hero?
20:01:37 [Puyopuyo]Bomberman Tournament for the GBA, Bomberman Max for the GBA...
20:01:42 [Puyopuyo]...after that, they stopped.
20:02:10 [Pipian-Lab]Thus proving my point.
20:02:21 [Pipian-Lab]It's not like this seems like it's a change is all I'm getting at.
20:03:28 [Puyopuyo]I suppose.
20:17:21 [Pipian-Lab]By the by
20:17:36 [Pipian-Lab]Sunday trains are ridiculously expensive
20:17:44 [Pipian-Lab]Except for 9AM
20:24:48 [Pipian-Lab]So I may have to take a bus back