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| 02:07:39 [Puyopuyo] | !pointer me Sacchi |
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| 02:07:39 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T2-7-39 |
| 02:08:27 [Puyopuyo] | ...YOU DONE SHOPPED MY CITY. |
| 02:08:38 [Puyopuyo] | AGHHHH. |
| 02:08:50 [Puyopuyo] | So, I tried Mario Sports Mix. |
| 02:08:59 [Puyopuyo] | It is much fun with other players. |
| 02:09:11 [Puyopuyo] | But...it has a distinct lack of variety going for it, which is kind of annoying. |
| 02:09:18 [Puyopuyo] | I can see it being good for a spin when friends come over. |
| 02:09:35 [Puyopuyo] | So clearly we buy it for Jenn and play it when when go to her place. |
| 02:14:37 [Puyopuyo] | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-02-07/maryland-katsucon-revises-policy-on-fan-art <- Wow. Already cracking down on copyright for fan art. |
| 02:15:07 [Puyopuyo] | Wonder how long they think people will attend if the artists aren't allowed to do pictures that people want... |
| 02:15:43 [Pipian] | That seems to imply that Katsucon backed out of their stance |
| 02:17:30 [Pipian] | ... |
| 02:17:30 [nathanbp] | selling fan art is pretty clearly violating copyright tho >_> |
| 02:17:30 [Pipian] | Wow |
| 02:17:42 [Pipian] | There was a musical version of Flowers for Algernon |
| 02:18:51 [Puyopuyo] | Nathan: Yes. But doujinshi and AMVs are okay? |
| 02:18:56 [Puyopuyo] | That's a flagrant double-standard. |
| 02:19:29 [Puyopuyo] | Ian: Yeah, Katsucon did, only because they realized that they were potentially badly hurting their con. |
| 02:19:57 [Puyopuyo] | But other cons are cracking down too. I'm wondering how well the fandom can survive not having fan art, AMVs, or really the sort of fan-privileges they take for granted. |
| 02:20:11 [Puyopuyo] | Hrm. Spaghetti sauce is probably reheated. Time for leftover night. |
| 02:20:19 [Pipian] | Considering that that is pretty much what fandom is about |
| 02:20:24 [Pipian] | Or rather |
| 02:20:36 [Pipian] | That is pretty much what keeps fans from not being annoyed by themselves |
| 02:20:37 [nathanbp] | well AMVs are not being sold |
| 02:20:52 [Pipian] | It's true that (generally speaking) there's no monetary incentive. |
| 02:21:55 [Pipian] | That said |
| 02:22:13 [Pipian] | I'm still waiting for AMVs to get neutered |
| 02:22:45 [Pipian] | I find it rather funny that only Evanescence (and Linkin Park?) have ever actually explicitly addressed the issue |
| 02:22:56 [nathanbp] | most bands don't care? |
| 02:24:31 [Pipian] | It's usually not the bands who do the whining though, as can be seen by YouTube |
| 02:31:51 [nathanbp] | the record companies don't notice? I dunno |
| 02:53:27 [Puyopuyo] | !pointer |
| 02:53:27 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T2-53-27 |
| 02:53:51 [Puyopuyo] | The recording companies had to have noticed. |
| 02:53:56 [Puyopuyo] | I don't know why they haven't bothered. |
| 02:54:05 [Puyopuyo] | Because it's not an MP3? |
| 02:54:32 [Pipian] | That's about the only argument that could be made |
| 02:55:13 [Puyopuyo] | The bands have to ignore it or something, because again, it's unlicensed use of their songs. |
| 02:55:41 [Puyopuyo] | The argument "there's no monetary exchange" doesn't really work for me. |
| 02:56:04 [Pipian] | Well |
| 02:56:12 [Pipian] | I'm not using it as a justification by any means |
| 02:56:25 [Pipian] | So much as a "cons don't care because people on average care less about it." |
| 02:56:32 [Pipian] | Whereas |
| 02:56:33 [Pipian] | Say |
| 02:56:47 [Pipian] | Cons might be under pressure from Japan via licensors |
| 02:56:53 [Pipian] | Regarding the art thing |
| 02:59:37 [Puyopuyo] | ...look, you're going to see fan art of things like Sephiroth of Final Fantasy 7. Which has very little to do with anime...mostly video games. |
| 03:00:45 [Pipian] | I'd raise you Advent Children |
| 03:00:47 [Pipian] | But even without it |
| 03:01:01 [Pipian] | Games are only about 1/2 the output |
| 03:02:02 [Puyopuyo] | I'd raise you every other Final Fantasy character. |
| 03:02:05 [Puyopuyo] | Er, game. |
| 03:02:08 [Puyopuyo] | It's ture. |
| 03:02:09 [Puyopuyo] | *true. |
| 03:02:21 [Puyopuyo] | But with restrictions like "No Fan Art Period", what's artists alley going to showcase? |
| 03:02:40 [Puyopuyo] | People generally don't care for original characters unless you are either very, very good, or you draw their eye with fan works. |
| 03:03:07 [Pipian] | Exactly. |
| 03:14:43 [Pipian] | defoggggggggg! |
| 03:14:54 [Puyopuyo] | Ugh. |
| 03:15:02 [Puyopuyo] | Oh, right, I spent 3 hours discussing Pokemon. |
| 03:15:11 [Pipian] | Well it's only natural |
| 03:15:14 [Puyopuyo] | March 5th is going to be ridiculous. Pokemon Company is taking over Rockefeller Center. |
| 03:15:30 [Pipian] | Good thing I'm not there?? |
| 03:15:35 [Puyopuyo] | The Nintendo World Staff are going to try to get some more event Pokemon to hand out the following day. |
| 03:15:46 [Puyopuyo] | Clearly. There will be Pokemon swag. |
| 03:15:56 [Pipian] | Of course |
| 03:16:41 [Pipian] | LIke I said |
| 03:16:45 [Pipian] | Good thing I'm not there |
| 03:16:51 [Pipian] | Or I wouldn't go into lab :o |
| 03:16:53 [nathanbp] | can you emulate the wifi thing that gives you special pokemon? |
| 03:17:04 [Pipian] | Probably |
| 03:17:29 [Pipian] | I'd have to use akismet or something like that though. |
| 03:17:43 [Pipian] | And then play back packets as they're probably RSA encrypted |
| 03:18:25 [Puyopuyo] | No. |
| 03:18:37 [Puyopuyo] | You can emulate a distro card, but not the wifi. |
| 03:18:48 [Puyopuyo] | That's the one thing that no one's EVER managed to successfully hack. |
| 03:18:56 [Pipian] | Eh |
| 03:19:11 [Puyopuyo] | I mean, it's probably doable, but it's such a tremendous pain in the ass. |
| 03:19:27 [Pipian] | I got to the point of hacking up an old Wi-Fi Connector USB connection to broadcast download games |
| 03:19:43 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah, that's generally what people get up to. |
| 03:19:55 [Puyopuyo] | But the thing about wifi Pokemon is...why bother? You could just distro-card it. |
| 03:20:17 [Pipian] | http://masscat.afraid.org/ninds/rt2570.php |
| 03:20:29 [Pipian] | Exactly. |
| 03:20:32 [Pipian] | Hell |
| 03:20:35 [Pipian] | Even with my bit |
| 03:20:44 [Puyopuyo] | There has never been a discernable gain in that, because if you're going to hack Pokemon...so much easier to do it. |
| 03:20:53 [Pipian] | Do a Wifi download of the save, PokeSav up the right pokemon |
| 03:21:03 [Pipian] | And then effectively distribute as many as you want by trading. |
| 03:21:19 [Puyopuyo] | They did that at PAX, I believe. |
| 03:21:27 [Puyopuyo] | Some artists were handing out level 100 Magikarps with Hyperbeam. |
| 03:21:43 [Pipian] | Or abuse the RNG if you wan't legal pokes. |
| 03:21:49 [Puyopuyo] | The entire problem is that there's no point. Hacked Pokemon are entirely worthless. |
| 03:21:59 [Pipian] | Eh |
| 03:22:04 [Pipian] | Not if you're careful in how you hack it |
| 03:22:23 [Pipian] | If you don't do obvious crap like sticking moves on pokemon that don't deserve them |
| 03:22:29 [Puyopuyo] | No, even that. |
| 03:22:38 [Puyopuyo] | My problem with Hacked Pokemon is that they ruin the game. |
| 03:22:41 [Pipian] | Oh |
| 03:22:43 [Pipian] | Well yeah |
| 03:22:47 [Puyopuyo] | They're worthless. |
| 03:23:01 [Puyopuyo] | You cannot have fair fights against people, because you made "optimized" Pokemon. |
| 03:23:14 [Puyopuyo] | You can trade them around and GTS them, but for what? You can hack anything. |
| 03:23:25 [Puyopuyo] | In hacking Pokemon, you've pretty much ended your game. |
| 03:23:36 [Pipian] | Exactly. |
| 03:23:57 [Pipian] | Only reason you'd hack up pokemon is if you were trying to short-cut the whole breeding step of trying to test out a team. |
| 03:24:08 [Puyopuyo] | I used to use Shoddy for that. |
| 03:24:32 [Pipian] | And not just going ahead and using a simulator instead |
| 03:31:57 [Pipian] | Thanks MIT |
| 03:32:22 [Pipian] | For actually not making Nintendo DS's have to work through your silly MAC address filter |
| 03:32:51 [Pipian] | And just outright auto-permitting them |
| 03:33:46 [Puyopuyo] | Unlike RPI! |
| 03:34:38 [Pipian] | Sam, there was a reason I hacked the Nintendo Wifi Connector to figure out its password |
| 03:35:03 [Pipian] | Or maybe that's why I had a network setting named ASDF |
| 03:35:05 [Pipian] | I can't remember |
| 03:35:54 [Puyopuyo] | (Both) |
| 03:37:09 [Pipian] | ASDF was yours wasn't it? |
| 03:38:00 [Puyopuyo] | Nope. |
| 03:38:12 [Pipian] | Who had that one then? |
| 03:38:34 [Puyopuyo] | I do not remember. |
| 03:39:01 [nathanbp] | yay world 500th heroic Chimaeron 10-man |
| 03:39:34 [Puyopuyo] | woo |
| 03:39:40 [Puyopuyo] | Now Heroic 25-man |
| 03:40:05 [Pipian] | what |
| 03:40:15 [nathanbp] | We're only doing 10-mans this expac |
| 03:40:25 [nathanbp] | the lockouts are exclusive |
| 03:40:48 [Pipian] | You are making those words up |
| 03:40:51 [Pipian] | They do not exist |
| 03:40:57 [Pipian] | Silly Nathan |
| 03:41:16 [Puyopuyo] | ...expac? |
| 03:41:23 [nathanbp] | expansion pack |
| 03:42:32 [nathanbp] | I could say the same of your Pokemon talk Ian |
| 03:42:39 [Puyopuyo] | ...also, what do you mean the lockouts are exclusive? |
| 03:42:50 [Puyopuyo] | (What, am I the only one in the channel who speaks World of Pokemon?) |
| 03:43:05 [nathanbp] | Jenn might? I don't |
| 03:43:14 [Puyopuyo] | She speaks some of both. |
| 03:43:21 [nathanbp] | You can only do the bosses on 10 or 25 man, not both |
| 03:43:39 [Puyopuyo] | ....so if you've done the boss 10 man, you cannot do the boss 25? |
| 03:43:49 [nathanbp] | each week |
| 03:43:53 [Puyopuyo] | ..oy |
| 03:43:58 [nathanbp] | nah it's really better |
| 03:44:07 [Puyopuyo] | I suppose so. |
| 03:44:08 [nathanbp] | than it was last expansion pack |
| 03:44:11 [gadgetgrl] | i saw my name...now i must go towards the top to figure out why |
| 03:44:20 [Puyopuyo] | Summary: |
| 03:44:21 [Pipian] | Ah |
| 03:44:23 [Puyopuyo] | Do you speak WoW? |
| 03:44:26 [Puyopuyo] | Do you speak Pokemon? |
| 03:44:31 [Pipian] | You can basically look for the little grey dashes in the scroll bar |
| 03:44:37 [Pipian] | They are kind of nice in Colloquy :o |
| 03:45:32 [gadgetgrl] | dashes? o.O |
| 03:45:39 [gadgetgrl] | i only have time stamps |
| 03:46:02 [Puyopuyo] | * Puyopuyo likes his Date Time stamps |
| 03:46:08 [gadgetgrl] | re: my name: yes, that's correct |
| 03:46:27 [Puyopuyo] | ...what? |
| 03:49:03 [Puyopuyo] | http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2011/02/dongin-game-and-why-it-might-be-dying.html <- Damn it Korea. |
| 03:51:32 [Pipian] | And why would Korea change? |
| 03:51:54 [Pipian] | You know the bigger names like those behind the Korean MMOs are going to fight against changing that |
| 03:52:05 [Puyopuyo] | Killing your indie games is still a bad idea. |
| 03:52:16 [Pipian] | Eh |
| 03:52:18 [Pipian] | Who cares |
| 03:52:33 [Pipian] | (says a Korean game manufacturer and the government) |
| 03:52:58 [Puyopuyo] | Well, hopefully their economy is perfectly fine with importing all of that Star Craft. |
| 03:53:18 [Pipian] | Well of course it is |
| 03:53:21 [Pipian] | Also |
| 03:53:27 [Pipian] | Their MMO industry seems to be alive and well |
| 03:53:36 [Puyopuyo] | Their MMO industry is doing okay. |
| 03:53:55 [Puyopuyo] | But if they lose their rights to broadcast and carefully groom their Star Craft teams to Blizzard...that'll hurt them badly. |
| 03:54:42 [Pipian] | Yeah, well that's just the cable channels who have to complain |
| 03:55:02 [Pipian] | Crass capitalism is the name of the game |
| 03:55:08 [Puyopuyo] | Hey, that's a pretty significant chunk of their economy. |
| 03:57:02 [Pipian] | What |
| 03:57:15 [Pipian] | You think Blizzard's going to rock the boat about this Dongin crap? |
| 03:57:17 [Pipian] | Heck no |
| 03:57:18 [Puyopuyo] | No. |
| 03:57:20 [Pipian] | They paid their fee |
| 03:57:22 [Puyopuyo] | I was referring to Star Craft. |
| 03:57:26 [Pipian] | And they probably like it that way. |
| 03:57:38 [Pipian] | But yes, I've heard about them playing hardball with the cable companies |
| 03:58:01 [Puyopuyo] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUJ_zS_6Ks4 <- I give up. Jenn, identify 11, 13 and 21 please! |
| 03:59:10 [gadgetgrl] | why me? |
| 03:59:27 [Puyopuyo] | Because Ian doesn't play video games and Nathan only plays WoW. |
| 03:59:44 [Puyopuyo] | And you've played a bunch I haven't, so there is a chance you will recognize them. |
| 03:59:48 [Puyopuyo] | If not, oh well, thanks anyway. |
| 04:00:21 [gadgetgrl] | i can find out friday mst likely :p |
| 04:00:33 [nathanbp] | Ian plays Pokemon? |
| 04:00:51 [Puyopuyo] | ? Why Friday? |
| 04:00:54 [gadgetgrl] | do they list what systems? |
| 04:00:58 [Puyopuyo] | No. |
| 04:01:19 [Puyopuyo] | It's something I'm doing for kicks, and Emily and I have figured out everything in that except those three. |
| 04:01:24 [Puyopuyo] | And they look REALLY familiar, which is frustrating. |
| 04:01:48 [Puyopuyo] | (Contest ends before then too, I think, so the answers'll be up by then.) |
| 04:02:17 [Pipian] | Friday? |
| 04:02:19 [Pipian] | Scott. |
| 04:02:58 [Puyopuyo] | He won't get most of these. |
| 04:03:02 [Puyopuyo] | I'm positive. |
| 04:03:23 [gadgetgrl] | yeah, esp 13 |
| 04:03:36 [gadgetgrl] | checking on frank's roommate |
| 04:03:41 [Pipian] | 13 looks like it'd be something like Harvest Moon 64 |
| 04:03:42 [gadgetgrl] | he'll probably know 11 and possibly 21 |
| 04:06:36 [Puyopuyo] | * Puyopuyo checks Harvest Moon 64's opening. |
| 04:07:31 [Pipian] | I mean, it probably isn't |
| 04:07:50 [Puyopuyo] | Probably isn't, but we've tried many things in that vein. |
| 04:07:59 [Puyopuyo] | Hilariously enough: WE FIGURED OUT THE FOOTBALL ONE. |
| 04:08:05 [Puyopuyo] | That one was PAINFUL. |
| 04:09:01 [gadgetgrl] | lol |
| 04:09:01 [Puyopuyo] | (The Star Wars one also sucked. There are WAY too many Star Wars games) |
| 04:09:19 [Puyopuyo] | I cannot sit through another Star Wars game intro. They ALL have the goddamn crawl. |
| 04:09:27 [Puyopuyo] | STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED |
| 04:09:31 [Puyopuyo] | STAR WARS: TIE-FIGHTER |
| 04:09:35 [Puyopuyo] | STAR WARS: WHY ARE YOU READING THIS? |
| 04:10:33 [nathanbp] | wow I never even watch game openings... |
| 04:11:01 [nathanbp] | I'm pretty sure one of these was a blizzard game too |
| 04:11:40 [Puyopuyo] | Which number? |
| 04:12:31 [nathanbp] | uhh don't remember |
| 04:12:39 [nathanbp] | not one of the ones you didn't know |
| 04:13:06 [nathanbp] | there was a zepplin and it looked kinda blizzardish |
| 04:13:26 [nathanbp] | or maybe it was an airship and it's japanese |
| 04:15:00 [Puyopuyo] | 9? |
| 04:20:49 [Pipian] | haha |
| 04:20:59 [Pipian] | my brother just reminded me of the best/worst music synthesizer |
| 04:21:41 [Pipian] | Have you ever heard of Rock Rap'n Roll |
| 04:23:42 [Puyopuyo] | No.... |
| 04:24:43 [Pipian] | It was |
| 04:24:44 [Pipian] | terrifying |
| 04:24:51 [Pipian] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxGZfzSkAKM |
| 04:30:12 [Puyopuyo] | ...hip help |
| 04:30:22 [Puyopuyo] | What the crap Ian. |
| 04:32:32 [nathanbp] | @Sam: yes, 9 |
| 04:32:53 [Pipian] | Hey now |
| 04:32:55 [Pipian] | it was both hip |
| 04:32:57 [Pipian] | and helpful |
| 04:33:06 [Pipian] | I'd like to see you do better! |
| 04:33:23 [Puyopuyo] | It's not Blizzard even though we initially thought it was. |
| 04:33:30 [Puyopuyo] | It's amazingly enough, not even Japanese. |
| 04:34:03 [Puyopuyo] | It IS a terrible game that few people have actually bothered playing. |
| 04:36:30 [nathanbp] | now I'm curious |
| 04:38:15 [Puyopuyo] | Emily figured it out while trying to figure out 21. |
| 04:45:00 [gadgetgrl] | feedback! |
| 04:45:14 [gadgetgrl] | #11 theory is call of duty 2 or one of the battlefield games |
| 04:45:22 [gadgetgrl] | 21 is 95% dark athena |
| 04:46:04 [Puyopuyo] | We suspected that for 11. |
| 04:46:10 [Puyopuyo] | Going to check Dark Athena's opening. |
| 04:47:16 [Puyopuyo] | If it is, you and your connections roxxor, Jenn-re. |
| 04:51:14 [gadgetgrl] | i'm excited to hear teh results |
| 05:01:31 [Pipian] | Why can I not stop watching a show about ponies |
| 05:02:16 [gadgetgrl] | are you going to go back to collecting my little ponies? |
| 05:03:07 [Pipian] | no |
| 05:04:11 [Puyopuyo] | Ian loves his ponies. |
| 05:04:32 [Pipian] | Actually |
| 05:04:42 [Pipian] | It might be a baby dragon wearing a mustache |
| 05:04:45 [Pipian] | I'm not entirely sure |
| 05:05:16 [Pipian] | But this show is more amusing than a show involving ponies has any right to be. |
| 05:13:47 [Pipian] | Effing finally. |
| 05:13:48 [Pipian] | |
| 05:14:04 [Pipian] | Why did you take nearly 2 months to plan a damn interview |
| 05:19:35 [gadgetgrl] | b/c you're off season |
| 05:19:44 [gadgetgrl] | and they have better things to organize |
| 05:19:47 [Pipian] | Actually |
| 05:19:47 [gadgetgrl] | like spring internships |
| 05:19:58 [Puyopuyo] | I don't think it's Dark Athena... |
| 05:20:02 [Pipian] | The reason is presumably because they're coming to campus Feb. 11 and decided to stall until then |
| 05:20:04 [Pipian] | But even so. |
| 05:20:13 [Pipian] | They could have said something. |
| 05:20:21 [Pipian] | Also, this was for an internship |
| 05:24:13 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah. It's not Riddick: Dark Athena. |
| 05:24:29 [Puyopuyo] | Good suggestion, but Riddick's hands are usually when he's walking...and none of the doors in the intro work like that. |
| 05:28:44 [Puyopuyo] | * Puyopuyo sighs. |
| 05:28:51 [Puyopuyo] | It was a really good shot. I'm sorry it wasn't it. |
| 05:29:26 [Puyopuyo] | (Unless someone's got an intro video that I haven't seen that shows that door/shadow/circle door) |
| 05:29:53 [nathanbp] | Hmm I think I'm reading The Name of the Wind /again/ since the sequel comes out March 1st |
| 05:29:55 [nathanbp] | (finally!) |
| 05:31:50 [nathanbp] | if only I could find my copy...need to buy bookshelves... |
| 05:31:56 [Pipian] | !pointer |
| 05:31:56 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T5-31-56 |
| 05:32:11 [Pipian] | Guess it's still working after I logged off |
| 05:32:16 [Pipian] | Great to know |
| 05:32:19 [Puyopuyo] | ...and then it gets delayed and Nathan completely loses it. |
| 05:33:47 [nathanbp] | yeah... |
| 05:33:50 [nathanbp] | ooh found it |
| 05:33:52 [nathanbp] | 700 pages |
| 05:33:56 [nathanbp] | hope I can put it down |
| 05:34:09 [nathanbp] | otherwise I will be very tired for work tomorrow |
| 05:34:47 [nathanbp] | woo US 77th, World 341th >_>;; |
| 05:39:24 [Puyopuyo] | 10 to go? |
| 05:39:58 [Puyopuyo] | This is quite possibly one of the coolest Google Doodles they've done yet. |
| 05:40:20 [nathanbp] | only like 4 more bosses are actually killable on 10 man |
| 05:40:50 [nathanbp] | that is pretty neat |
| 05:41:07 [Pipian] | Cousteau? |
| 05:41:16 [Puyopuyo] | Really? The rest aren't doable except on 25 Heroic? |
| 05:41:55 [nathanbp] | Ian: If that was re: Google, Jules Verne? |
| 05:41:56 [Pipian] | Either that or Verne? |
| 05:42:04 [nathanbp] | click the middle |
| 05:42:12 [nathanbp] | so far 7/13 have only been done on 25 heroic |
| 05:42:20 [Pipian] | In any case |
| 05:42:24 [Pipian] | The Pacman was pretty good |
| 05:43:00 [Puyopuyo] | World's first! |
| 05:44:56 [nathanbp] | Yeah Pacman was probably the best |
| 05:45:04 [Pipian] | I saved it |
| 05:45:12 [Pipian] | Except for the Flash audio |
| 05:45:15 [nathanbp] | don't they have a page where you can view them all? |
| 05:45:23 [Pipian] | It was an impressive use of HTML5 |
| 05:46:03 [nathanbp] | yeah |
| 06:15:02 [Puyopuyo] | http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=129769 |
| 06:15:08 [Puyopuyo] | If we're training to PAX East, that'll be handy. |
| 06:17:51 [Pipian] | Anyone training away from farther than DC is crazy |
| 06:18:42 [Puyopuyo] | Haha |
| 06:22:29 [Pipian] | Which reminds me that I should make my plans for the 19th |
| 06:26:29 [Puyopuyo] | Watgh. I need to buy tickets. |
| 06:29:42 [gadgetgrl] | yeah, me too |
| 06:29:52 [gadgetgrl] | i need to figure out who's on my train |
| 06:30:01 [Puyopuyo] | I was referring to tickets for Time of Eve... |
| 06:30:02 [gadgetgrl] | is your whole group training? |
| 06:30:10 [Puyopuyo] | The ones I care about, yeah. |
| 06:30:16 [Puyopuyo] | The rest are bussing or fending for themselves. |
| 06:32:05 [gadgetgrl] | okay |
| 06:32:11 [gadgetgrl] | so how many would you say are with you? |
| 06:32:27 [Puyopuyo] | Emily, my friend Jennie...that's it off the top of my head. Maybe two more. |
| 06:32:39 [gadgetgrl] | okay, cool |
| 06:32:50 [gadgetgrl] | i have kathy with me...and i think that might be it |
| 06:33:02 [gadgetgrl] | need to poke nathan about it... |
| 06:33:05 [Pipian] | Sam: Late Friday or Early Saturday? I'm probably leaving Sunday either way. This time I'm doing Amtrak despite the higher cost. I'm a bit tired of bussing this time around. |
| 06:33:16 [gadgetgrl] | everyone else is flying/driving |
| 06:36:20 [Puyopuyo] | For Eve no Jikan? |
| 06:36:43 [Puyopuyo] | You two are talking about different things. My brain is trying to buffer... |
| 06:36:58 [Puyopuyo] | Well, let's try to do a unified train on Friday, Jenn-re. |
| 06:37:01 [Puyopuyo] | Ian what? |
| 06:37:45 [gadgetgrl] | sounds good |
| 06:38:32 [Pipian] | I am talking about Eve |
| 06:38:53 [Pipian] | (i mean seriously why would i be talking about training to pax east that's just silly) |
| 06:39:36 [Pipian] | (i mean yes the red line is sorta kinda a train that goes underground for a lot of it, but the silver line is really just a glorified bus and i'm not planning on taking either so...) |
| 06:54:14 [Pipian] | But yeah |
| 06:54:21 [Pipian] | Would you rather I come in Friday night or Saturday morning? |
| 06:54:37 [Puyopuyo] | It doesn't matter to me. Whichever is more convenient for you. |
| 06:56:05 [Pipian] | Prob. Friday night I think. Then I don't have to get up early (haha) |
| 06:56:30 [Pipian] | Also easier to drop my stuff off |
| 06:56:43 [Pipian] | Instead of training out to train back in |
| 06:56:46 [Pipian] | Or lugging it around all day |
| 06:57:08 [Puyopuyo] | Sounds like a good plan. |
| 06:57:45 [Pipian] | Hm |
| 06:57:49 [Pipian] | That could be a problem |
| 06:58:00 [Pipian] | 3DS comes out and I won't be in Boston until the day after |
| 06:58:55 [Pipian] | Oh well, so be it. |
| 06:59:06 [Pipian] | If they sell out and I have to wait, then they sell out and I have to wait |
| 07:00:51 [Puyopuyo] | Don't think it's a huge fuss myself. |
| 07:01:10 [Pipian] | Still |
| 07:01:14 [Pipian] | Reserving one |
| 07:01:23 [Pipian] | And not picking it up until the day after can sometimes be problematic. |
| 07:02:39 [Pipian] | (Doubly uncool because otherwise I'd have a 3DS to take straight on the plane with me in Portland, but there's probably just barely not enough time to pick one up before my flight at noon) |
| 07:02:52 [Pipian] | (Not that I'm getting any launch games but hey) |
| 07:03:31 [Puyopuyo] | Well, I wish you luck. |
| 07:03:42 [Puyopuyo] | I assume that Gamestop pre-orders aren't transferrable between Gamestops? |
| 07:03:57 [Pipian] | That's an excellent question, but probably not easily |
| 07:03:59 [Pipian] | I mean |
| 07:04:07 [Pipian] | The idea is that they know how many to ship to each one, right? |
| 07:04:40 [Pipian] | Oh there it is |
| 07:04:47 [Pipian] | 48 hours after release |
| 07:04:49 [Pipian] | Not 24 |
| 07:04:57 [Pipian] | Is how long they claim they'll hold on to them |
| 07:06:02 [Pipian] | Per the receipt |
| 07:07:11 [Puyopuyo] | Well, Gamestop is known to be full of bullshit. |
| 07:07:16 [Puyopuyo] | So I wish you luck. Again. |
| 07:07:26 [Pipian] | This is also true. |
| 07:07:33 [Pipian] | So it really doesn't matter |
| 07:07:42 [Pipian] | Because it's entirely possible they bullshit and say it's transferrable too |
| 07:08:20 [Pipian] | And suppose that it IS a hot item |
| 07:08:28 [Pipian] | Then they love to change the rules because of that |
| 07:10:12 [Puyopuyo] | Definitely. |
| 07:10:59 [Pipian] | I suppose I should consider myself lucky that I suspect I picked the marginally less popular color, in so far as a color can be considered less popular should they sell out at launch. |
| 07:11:33 [Pipian] | (So, not that it will make any difference) |
| 07:14:56 [Puyopuyo] | Indeed. |
| 07:16:37 [gadgetgrl] | i went the mail route...i cross my fingers the mail service isn't messed up |
| 07:17:40 [Puyopuyo] | I mean, it's not like the pink GBA... |
| 07:17:44 [Puyopuyo] | And I'm not buying one at lanuch. |
| 07:17:45 [Puyopuyo] | *launch |
| 07:18:41 [Pipian] | Like I said |
| 07:19:26 [Pipian] | With my not getting any launch games, it's not ABSOLUTELY time-critical |
| 07:35:15 [gadgetgrl] | any thoughts on what iwata is going to announce at gdc? |
| 07:37:10 [Puyopuyo] | He'll shoot you all with a Nintendo Mind Ray. |
| 07:37:18 [Puyopuyo] | And the new age of video games will have begun. |
| 07:48:14 [Pipian] | Night |
| 13:40:02 [nathanbp] | Ohh, Mistakes of Youth (this week's comic: Madoka Magica) |
| 15:53:00 [Pipian-Lab] | Heh |
| 15:53:02 [Pipian-Lab] | Oh Sony |
| 15:53:13 [Pipian-Lab] | Why do you think you can still put the genie back into the bottle |
| 15:56:22 [Puyopuyo] | Suing for people's identities. |
| 15:56:38 [Puyopuyo] | And I KNOW some of them live in Sweden and other countries with a strong backing on Piracy. |
| 15:57:46 [Pipian-Lab] | Actually |
| 15:57:49 [Pipian-Lab] | I was going more for the |
| 15:57:57 [Pipian-Lab] | "We will sue anyone who even discusses the hack" thing |
| 15:58:04 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah, I'm waiting for Nathan to buy another shirt. |
| 16:05:09 [Pipian-Lab] | We can only assume that he's waiting for it to be made |
| 16:08:28 [Puyopuyo] | Probably. |
| 16:46:16 [gadgetgrl] | !pointer |
| 16:46:16 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-08.html#T16-46-16 |
| 19:18:02 [gadgetgrl] | Time Warner is really sucking these past two days |
| 19:18:44 [Puyopuyo] | Ugh |
| 19:34:53 [Puyopuyo] | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/08/report-hudson-entertainment-shut-down/ <- Great. |
| 19:35:00 [Puyopuyo] | I LIKE Bomberman. |
| 19:46:13 [Pipian-Lab] | They'll just release it via Konami? |
| 19:48:46 [Puyopuyo] | Bomberman 3DS yes. But the future doesn't look so hot. |
| 19:49:43 [Pipian-Lab] | I'm not entirely convinced |
| 19:49:50 [Pipian-Lab] | What did Hudson Entertainment exactly DO? |
| 19:49:57 [Pipian-Lab] | Hudsonsoft developed Bomberman |
| 19:49:59 [Pipian-Lab] | Fine |
| 19:50:07 [Pipian-Lab] | But Hudson Entertainment -- The American arm? |
| 19:50:40 [Pipian-Lab] | Hudson Entertainment didn't even exist until 2003. |
| 19:50:53 [Puyopuyo] | They were Hudson USA before then. |
| 19:51:21 [Pipian-Lab] | According to Wikipedia, Hudson had no American arm between 1995 and 2003. |
| 19:51:29 [Puyopuyo] | It's true. |
| 19:51:37 [Puyopuyo] | But Hudson Soft USA was there from 88 to 95 |
| 19:52:10 [Puyopuyo] | The other real problem though is that this is a direct result of Konami completely buying out Hudson. |
| 19:52:17 [Pipian-Lab] | I mean |
| 19:52:22 [Pipian-Lab] | Is Bomberman that unpopular |
| 19:52:24 [Pipian-Lab] | for example |
| 19:52:37 [Pipian-Lab] | Why wouldn't they keep using the character / game concept? |
| 19:52:44 [Puyopuyo] | So as it's no longer a separate entity, none of the Hudson IPs will probably have any real emphasis. I believe Konami wants Hudson to be working on "social games", like cellphone and facebook. |
| 19:52:55 [Pipian-Lab] | Eeh |
| 19:52:57 [Puyopuyo] | Because it doesn't million sell? |
| 19:53:08 [Pipian-Lab] | They'll just pass off the character to some B-team of Konami's |
| 19:53:15 [Pipian-Lab] | And ruin the series |
| 19:53:23 [Pipian-Lab] | But that's not to say that they'll kill it. |
| 19:53:24 [Pipian-Lab] | I mean |
| 19:53:24 [Puyopuyo] | After Bomberman: Act Zero, that'll be impressive. |
| 19:53:26 [Pipian-Lab] | Look at Sonic |
| 19:53:32 [Puyopuyo] | Colors was legitimately good. |
| 19:54:20 [Pipian-Lab] | They just put out Bomberman Live: Battlefest on all the major DLC platforms |
| 19:54:46 [Pipian-Lab] | And that was already farmed out before the merger |
| 19:55:00 [Pipian-Lab] | (To an American company) |
| 19:55:12 [Pipian-Lab] | To think that Konami won't milk a franchise like Bomberman is a little crazy |
| 19:55:13 [Puyopuyo] | (It's also pretty lousy.) |
| 19:55:17 [Puyopuyo] | Oh, they will. |
| 19:55:26 [Puyopuyo] | But Bomberman 3DS looked like it was going to be like Bomberman 64. |
| 19:55:40 [Puyopuyo] | An actual Bomberman Adventure the likes of which we haven't seen in years. |
| 19:56:31 [Pipian-Lab] | *shrug* |
| 19:56:33 [Pipian-Lab] | So it goes. |
| 19:56:49 [Pipian-Lab] | If it's successful, Konami will be inclined to make more |
| 19:56:51 [Pipian-Lab] | If it's not |
| 19:57:06 [Pipian-Lab] | Well then it's a series of more lousy games. |
| 19:57:18 [Pipian-Lab] | But it's not going to die. |
| 19:57:25 [Pipian-Lab] | If Kid Icarus can't die |
| 19:57:30 [Pipian-Lab] | There's no way Bomberman will. |
| 19:57:45 [Pipian-Lab] | It'll just live the ignominious half-dead life that most Sonic games live. |
| 19:58:23 [Pipian-Lab] | Which it sounds like it was living already |
| 19:58:34 [Pipian-Lab] | So it really doesn't sound like a change?? |
| 19:58:49 [Puyopuyo] | Kid Icarus was DEAD. |
| 19:59:13 [Pipian-Lab] | Exactly. |
| 20:00:03 [Pipian-Lab] | I don't think it will make a substantive change, except that maybe fewer Bomberman clunkers will be released each year. |
| 20:00:13 [Pipian-Lab] | But to think they won't keep coming seems naive to me. |
| 20:00:38 [Puyopuyo] | In the sense of attempting adventure Bomberman games? I think they'll be gone after 3DS unless it sells like no Bomberman has ever sold. |
| 20:01:01 [Pipian-Lab] | You mean they attempted adventure Bomberman games since Bomberman Hero? |
| 20:01:37 [Puyopuyo] | Bomberman Tournament for the GBA, Bomberman Max for the GBA... |
| 20:01:42 [Puyopuyo] | ...after that, they stopped. |
| 20:02:10 [Pipian-Lab] | Thus proving my point. |
| 20:02:21 [Pipian-Lab] | It's not like this seems like it's a change is all I'm getting at. |
| 20:03:28 [Puyopuyo] | I suppose. |
| 20:17:21 [Pipian-Lab] | By the by |
| 20:17:36 [Pipian-Lab] | Sunday trains are ridiculously expensive |
| 20:17:44 [Pipian-Lab] | Except for 9AM |
| 20:24:48 [Pipian-Lab] | So I may have to take a bus back |