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| 01:12:55 [Puyopuyo] | !pointer |
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| 01:12:55 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-04.html#T1-12-55 |
| 01:46:22 [Pipian] | And I'm still logging on this end as well |
| 01:46:41 [Pipian] | Sacchi might go down for a few days in the near future as I found out today that the box it's on got rooted |
| 01:47:16 [Pipian] | So some time in the next few days it'll be down for about 2-3 days |
| 01:53:45 [Puyopuyo] | ....how? |
| 01:53:55 [Puyopuyo] | Someone with a lot of patience? |
| 02:01:57 [Pipian] | Haha |
| 02:02:15 [Pipian] | Nah, it runs on a box which had a vulnerable version of exim running. |
| 02:02:21 [Puyopuyo] | Ah. That sucks. |
| 02:02:22 [Pipian] | (Mailer daemon) |
| 02:02:31 [Pipian] | My own fault for not upgrading as soon as I saw |
| 02:02:36 [Puyopuyo] | (I wasn't willing to believe that you had dropped the ball with a stupid password. |
| 02:02:37 [Puyopuyo] | ) |
| 02:03:10 [Pipian] | I only have stupid passwords where the risk of getting it plucked out of the air is high (e.g. no https) |
| 02:03:30 [Puyopuyo] | Heh |
| 02:03:39 [Pipian] | I mean |
| 02:03:40 [Pipian] | At that point |
| 02:03:51 [Pipian] | What's the point of using a secure password if it's not actually secure? |
| 02:04:48 [Puyopuyo] | True |
| 02:05:31 [Pipian] | * Pipian looks over the attacks Crobat learns |
| 02:05:49 [Pipian] | I guess there's no reason to not teach it Fly over Air Cutter. |
| 02:19:00 [Puyopuyo] | Ugh, Apple's App store is giving me a headache. |
| 02:19:33 [Pipian] | It's a terrible deal for all involved except Apple |
| 02:19:49 [Puyopuyo] | Working out fine for iCoder. |
| 02:20:09 [Pipian] | Who still has to give up 30% to Apple |
| 02:20:20 [Pipian] | Plus |
| 02:20:27 [Pipian] | no guarantee Apple won't not-pay-out |
| 02:20:36 [Pipian] | In which case iCoder ends up out $100 |
| 02:22:34 [Pipian] | And I'm not really all that big on the Ulugu guys either |
| 02:22:37 [Pipian] | I mean |
| 02:22:51 [Pipian] | You're only paying lip service if your code is GPL |
| 02:23:03 [Pipian] | But you can't actually make a working game because all your assets aren't. |
| 02:23:13 [Puyopuyo] | You get a snapshot of all the assets. |
| 02:23:23 [Puyopuyo] | And you are allowed to redistrobute them FOR FREE. |
| 02:23:29 [nathanbp] | isn't that exactly the process that many other games that are now open source are? |
| 02:23:33 [nathanbp] | like Doom and Quake? |
| 02:23:36 [Puyopuyo] | Pretty much. |
| 02:23:45 [Puyopuyo] | It was made open source for the modders. |
| 02:23:57 [Puyopuyo] | Which was kind of the goal when the original Humble Indie Bundle was launched. |
| 02:24:07 [Puyopuyo] | I mean, 1 million bucks? Yeah, let the modders have fun. |
| 02:24:14 [Pipian] | I'm not saying they're wrong |
| 02:24:45 [Pipian] | I'm just a little wary of it since it seems vaguely two-faced to me. |
| 02:24:51 [Puyopuyo] | How's that? |
| 02:24:56 [Pipian] | But they're well within their rights to do this. |
| 02:24:58 [Pipian] | Oh |
| 02:25:27 [Puyopuyo] | Kind of annoying that they can't DMCA Apple, because Apple is technically making a profit off of it. |
| 02:25:27 [Pipian] | I'm just saying from the philosophical standpoint from which the GPL was derived. |
| 02:25:47 [Puyopuyo] | Hrm...won't argue with you there. |
| 02:26:19 [Puyopuyo] | But on the other hand, being willing to open souce, especially when you're a small indie company, is rather bold, even if you are granting a public license via GPL. |
| 02:26:26 [Pipian] | Exactly. |
| 02:26:33 [Pipian] | I won't fault them their choice |
| 02:26:56 [Pipian] | Same as I don't fault the VLC guys for pulling VLC from the iPhone store either. |
| 02:27:42 [Puyopuyo] | Ugh |
| 02:27:47 [Puyopuyo] | That was a headache too. |
| 02:28:28 [Pipian] | If they feel that way about their code, they are within their rights (according to the GPL) to do that. |
| 02:28:37 [Pipian] | Similarly with these guys |
| 02:28:45 [Pipian] | They're well within their right to NOT open-source the assets. |
| 02:31:05 [Pipian] | (Exactly because of things like this) |
| 02:32:08 [Puyopuyo] | I'm of the opinion that this is actually bad for the end consumer. Mostly because it suggests to indie developers that open sourcing is a bad idea. |
| 02:32:27 [Pipian] | But iCoder is the real jerk of the two |
| 02:32:44 [Pipian] | Eh |
| 02:32:48 [Pipian] | It's bound to happen in any case |
| 02:32:51 [Pipian] | When you open source |
| 02:33:06 [Pipian] | You have to accept that people will distribute recompiled binaries with the source. |
| 02:33:24 [Pipian] | So if game developers are dissuaded from open sources |
| 02:33:52 [Pipian] | Then they shouldn't have been considering it. |
| 02:34:07 [Pipian] | *dissuaded because of this I mean. |
| 02:34:23 [Puyopuyo] | Well, I figure the ones who already committed to open sourcing will continue, but this may have convinced others that it's outright unworthwhile. |
| 02:34:39 [Pipian] | Well, that's what I mean. |
| 02:34:45 [Pipian] | If it wasn't this game |
| 02:34:52 [Pipian] | It would have been some other open-source game. |
| 02:35:34 [Pipian] | And they'd still be dissuaded. |
| 02:35:56 [Pipian] | Again, if any game dev is considering open sourcing their game with the expectation that they're not going to lose sales because of it |
| 02:36:13 [Pipian] | They should think twice. |
| 02:37:05 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah, you're right. |
| 02:37:26 [Puyopuyo] | But I think it's one thing to lose sales due to people grabbing it from the corners of the internet... |
| 02:37:40 [Puyopuyo] | It's another to go to a proprietary store and say "bootleg? I'll take it!" *is reminded of some Gamestops* |
| 02:38:11 [Pipian] | Not much you can do about that though. |
| 02:38:16 [Pipian] | Bootlegs are always going to exist. |
| 02:39:18 [Pipian] | The GPL explicitly allows people to resell programs. |
| 02:39:32 [Pipian] | As long as they give the source-code with the game |
| 02:39:34 [Pipian] | It's A-OK. |
| 02:40:55 [Puyopuyo] | I know. |
| 02:41:04 [Pipian] | So I agree that it's a bad thing. |
| 02:41:08 [Pipian] | It's bad faith on iCoder |
| 02:41:23 [Puyopuyo] | But again, I think there's a difference between bootlegs on torrent sites and bootlegs in the friggen Apple Store. |
| 02:42:35 [Pipian] | But, ignoring the obvious copyright violation on the assets (and perhaps the name of the game), iCoder is otherwise well within his rights. |
| 02:43:50 [nathanbp] | "well if you ignore everything he did that was wrong, he's in the clear!" |
| 02:44:06 [Pipian] | Well, yeah. |
| 02:44:52 [Puyopuyo] | ...well, Nathan said it. I don't need to. |
| 02:45:00 [Pipian] | I'm merely trying to demonstrate that it's a somewhat more nuanced/complicated situation than it would be had Luguru remained closed source. |
| 02:45:23 [Pipian] | Let me put it this way |
| 02:45:29 [Pipian] | Had he replaced the assets |
| 02:45:35 [Pipian] | And renamed the game |
| 02:45:41 [Puyopuyo] | They would have no complaint. |
| 02:45:47 [Pipian] | Exactly. |
| 02:45:54 [Pipian] | But would they complain if it was (say) |
| 02:45:58 [Pipian] | "Son of Luguru" |
| 02:46:02 [Puyopuyo] | Probably not. |
| 02:46:07 [Pipian] | and appeared to be a sequel that shared no assets? |
| 02:46:15 [Puyopuyo] | Pretty sure they wouldn't. |
| 02:46:37 [Puyopuyo] | Having spoken to them, they knew what they were getting into when they open sourced, and looked forward to seeing what the modders would do with their code. |
| 02:46:52 [Puyopuyo] | (At least, that's what one of them said when I talked to him at PAX) |
| 02:47:25 [Puyopuyo] | They're pretty laid back about most things. Remember, 25% of the Humble Indie Bundle downloads from their server were pirated. |
| 02:47:43 [Puyopuyo] | And they said "Not too much we can do about it. No sense in making it worse for the 75% who didn't." |
| 02:48:09 [Pipian] | Well |
| 02:48:13 [Pipian] | Alright then. |
| 02:48:46 [Pipian] | It is a shame, and a very bad situation in any case. |
| 02:48:58 [Pipian] | On the other hand |
| 02:49:00 [Puyopuyo] | See, had I not actually met them and realized that they're honestly trying to do what us curmudgeony bastards have been demanding from developers for years, I may be a bit more questioning. |
| 02:49:02 [Pipian] | Apple can't do much proactively. |
| 02:49:12 [Pipian] | They don't have the resources to check copyright of everything |
| 02:49:36 [Pipian] | All they have you do is sign an agreement that has you promise you own the copyright in everything. |
| 02:49:57 [Pipian] | I think they COULD do a DMCA takedown request on Apple though. |
| 02:50:05 [Puyopuyo] | I'm not sure about that. |
| 02:50:25 [Puyopuyo] | As Apple is technically making a profit on the bootleg, I don't know what the DMCA says about it. |
| 02:50:42 [Pipian] | Then that means they're liable and could be sued |
| 02:50:47 [Puyopuyo] | Yup. |
| 02:50:52 [Pipian] | It actually makes it worse for them |
| 02:51:00 [Pipian] | But a DMCA takedown could (theoretically) work anyway. |
| 02:51:16 [Puyopuyo] | True. |
| 02:51:27 [Puyopuyo] | I wonder if Wolfire hasn't already considered it. |
| 02:51:34 [Puyopuyo] | As they contacted all concerned parties... |
| 02:51:46 [Pipian] | But yeah, Apple can't do much proactively, all they can do is do a pull-down after the fact |
| 02:51:50 [Pipian] | And for whatever reason |
| 02:51:55 [Pipian] | Their processes are slow about this. |
| 02:52:03 [Pipian] | That's probably about the only thing they could do in response |
| 02:52:07 [Puyopuyo] | I'm actually surprised they don't have the Youtube instinct. |
| 02:52:21 [Pipian] | Respond to complaints faster. |
| 02:52:21 [Puyopuyo] | Which is "Oh dear, a challenge. Take 'em both down, sort it out, let the victor go back up" |
| 02:52:28 [Pipian] | Hah |
| 02:52:30 [Pipian] | Well |
| 02:52:33 [Pipian] | That's apple for you. |
| 02:52:40 [Pipian] | Apple only is proactive about jailbreaks. |
| 02:52:45 [Puyopuyo] | I mean, it's not ideal, but then the only party truly- |
| 02:52:51 [Puyopuyo] | Jailbreaks of their own tech. |
| 02:53:20 [Pipian] | Right. |
| 02:54:53 [Pipian] | Everyone in this drama has done something wrong (although with Wolfire it's more of a philosophical wrong rather than a true ethical wrong, so I can agree to disagree about that point) |
| 02:56:40 [Pipian] | (It's by far the weakest wrong of the three actors, so I won't begrudge them it at all) |
| 03:04:11 [gadgetgrl] | !pointer |
| 03:04:11 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-04.html#T3-4-11 |
| 03:06:03 [Pipian] | Getting tired of female Zubats |
| 03:08:08 [Puyopuyo] | Heh |
| 03:11:35 [Pipian] | It makes getting rid of this stupid Meditite from my team all that much harder |
| 03:12:04 [Puyopuyo] | Heh |
| 03:12:24 [Pipian] | So useless |
| 03:12:36 [Pipian] | So hard to get to L29 where it becomes slightly more useful |
| 03:13:37 [Puyopuyo] | Heh |
| 03:13:40 [Pipian] | as in |
| 03:13:40 [Pipian] | Where it gets an attack it can actually use that's in its good attack stat |
| 03:13:41 [Puyopuyo] | Significantly, I'd say. |
| 03:13:56 [Pipian] | As opposed to say |
| 03:13:56 [Pipian] | Confusion. |
| 03:14:28 [Pipian] | Sure you can move-tutor it Zen Headbutt but still |
| 03:14:28 [Pipian] | You don't get that until late |
| 03:15:37 [Puyopuyo] | Yup. |
| 03:16:39 [Pipian] | Yes |
| 03:16:41 [Pipian] | new area |
| 03:16:45 [Pipian] | maybe I'll get luckier. |
| 03:18:52 [Pipian] | See |
| 03:18:57 [Pipian] | A female Houndour would be alright |
| 03:19:02 [Pipian] | Even though I already have a fire-type |
| 03:19:24 [Pipian] | Because it's not another fucking Bibarel, Zubat, or Geodude |
| 03:19:32 [Puyopuyo] | I fucking hate Bibarel. |
| 03:20:39 [Pipian] | Oh dear |
| 03:20:47 [Pipian] | My friend has bred me the Treecko I asked for |
| 03:20:54 [Pipian] | But it's apparently "with some surprises" |
| 03:20:58 [Pipian] | I'm not sure that's a good thing. |
| 03:21:02 [Puyopuyo] | ...PKRS? |
| 03:21:14 [Puyopuyo] | silly moves? |
| 03:21:33 [Pipian] | Heck if I know |
| 03:22:49 [Pipian] | (I gave him a cloned Treecko a while back and forgot that I hadn't bred it first, so I wanted one, but didn't want to clone it again |
| 03:23:29 [Pipian] | Thank god every Bibarel I've seen in this area has been male |
| 03:27:32 [Pipian] | That's not terrible |
| 03:27:36 [Pipian] | Female Girafarig |
| 03:27:57 [Pipian] | Silly Girafarig |
| 03:28:02 [Pipian] | You can't use Baton Pass here! |
| 03:30:04 [Puyopuyo] | Kampfer DVD collection, 40% off on Rightstuf! You know you don't want it, Ian! |
| 03:30:10 [Pipian] | ugh |
| 03:30:16 [Pipian] | i think i have to go throw up now |
| 03:32:15 [nathanbp] | why did that get liscened? |
| 03:32:26 [nathanbp] | why are they making another season? |
| 03:32:54 [Puyopuyo] | Why are you asking questions no on in the room has an adequate answer for? |
| 03:32:56 [Puyopuyo] | *one |
| 03:33:45 [nathanbp] | I wanted you all to share the pain of there being another season of that |
| 03:34:38 [Puyopuyo] | ...I cannot agree with Sentai Filmworks charging 60 dollars for Canaan. Even at 36, it's too much. |
| 03:34:58 [Puyopuyo] | 13 episodes. I'll give 'em 25 for that. Nothing more. |
| 03:35:28 [nathanbp] | why would you buy Canaan at all? |
| 03:35:34 [Puyopuyo] | To make myself sad: Nyan Koi. 40% off. |
| 03:35:38 [nathanbp] | lol |
| 03:35:40 [Puyopuyo] | Because it was mediocre and I like Nasu. |
| 03:35:50 [nathanbp] | this is why I don't look at rightstuf? |
| 03:35:51 [gadgetgrl] | you didn't like nyan koi? |
| 03:36:03 [nathanbp] | you liked nyan koi? |
| 03:36:04 [gadgetgrl] | i guess i could see why |
| 03:36:05 [Pipian] | oh |
| 03:36:09 [Pipian] | suddenly that makes sense |
| 03:36:10 [gadgetgrl] | not particularly.... |
| 03:36:18 [Pipian] | Why the Girafarig is "Kirinriki" in Japanese |
| 03:36:19 [Pipian] | hum |
| 03:36:20 [gadgetgrl] | but there was a lot more that sucked that season |
| 03:36:25 [gadgetgrl] | i watched it all >.> |
| 03:36:38 [Puyopuyo] | HO SHIT WHEN DID JENN APEAR? |
| 03:36:38 [nathanbp] | everything that season or all of nyan koi? |
| 03:36:43 [Puyopuyo] | *APPEAR? |
| 03:36:50 [gadgetgrl] | lol |
| 03:36:57 [gadgetgrl] | that season |
| 03:37:00 [Puyopuyo] | Wow, completely didn't notice. |
| 03:37:02 [nathanbp] | (22:03:27) gadgetgrl [~gadgetgrl@Rizon-F64C309F.nyc.res.rr.com] entered the room. |
| 03:37:04 [Puyopuyo] | I saw. |
| 03:37:05 [gadgetgrl] | i didn't mind nyan koi |
| 03:37:07 [Puyopuyo] | I can scroll up Nathan. |
| 03:37:10 [gadgetgrl] | lol |
| 03:37:13 [nathanbp] | lol |
| 03:37:41 [Puyopuyo] | Oh god they're synching again stop it. |
| 03:38:06 [Puyopuyo] | Also, Ian, what's with the non-8 character nick? You're ruining the uniformity. |
| 03:38:25 [nathanbp] | gadgetgrl is 9 |
| 03:38:27 [Pipipian] | ?? |
| 03:38:39 [Puyopuyo] | Yeah, can't complain about that. |
| 03:38:41 [Pipipian] | What are you talking about? |
| 03:38:45 [Puyopuyo] | (Stupid variable width fonts) |
| 03:38:48 [Pipipian] | Of course I have 8 characters in my name |
| 03:39:12 [nathanbp] | one of my guildmates in wow has a name that's the same number of pixels long in the varible width wow font |
| 03:39:37 [Puyopuyo] | Clannad After Story for 42 (40% off!) for Nathan. |
| 03:39:44 [Pipian] | I'll be back a little later |
| 03:39:49 [Pipian] | Gotta do some trades |
| 03:39:57 [Puyopuyo] | Clannad the Motion Picture for 18. |
| 03:40:12 [nathanbp] | I didn't really like Clannad taht much |
| 03:40:20 [nathanbp] | never finished after story |
| 03:40:26 [nathanbp] | or maybe never finished clannad? |
| 03:40:29 [Puyopuyo] | Uta Kata for 30... |
| 03:40:44 [Puyopuyo] | Sentai Filmworks charges too fucking much. |
| 03:40:46 [Puyopuyo] | * Puyopuyo stomps off. |
| 03:40:50 [Puyopuyo] | (60 bucks, 13 episodes) |
| 03:41:00 [nathanbp] | wow you had to tell me about uta kata |
| 03:41:28 [nathanbp] | this is at right stuf? |
| 03:41:32 [Puyopuyo] | Yup |
| 03:41:37 [Puyopuyo] | Sale until 2/14 |
| 03:41:40 [Puyopuyo] | Er, Feb 14. |
| 03:42:25 [nathanbp] | ugh have to buy that |
| 03:42:25 [nathanbp] | :P |
| 03:46:37 [Puyopuyo] | Heh |
| 03:47:24 [gadgetgrl] | you're a bad influence sam |
| 03:47:38 [Puyopuyo] | No I'm not. |
| 03:47:39 [nathanbp] | right stuf should give him a comisison |
| 03:47:45 [Puyopuyo] | Yes they should. |
| 03:47:47 [gadgetgrl] | seriously! |
| 03:47:52 [nathanbp] | it's clearly my fault for liking utakata? |
| 03:48:03 [gadgetgrl] | and when they ask why, he can just point to you :) |
| 03:48:08 [gadgetgrl] | clearly! |
| 03:48:09 [Puyopuyo] | It's clearly your fault for being willing to buy any series you like. |
| 03:48:17 [Puyopuyo] | Unlike say...the rest of us? |
| 03:48:57 [nathanbp] | hey, not any series |
| 03:49:11 [nathanbp] | oh speaking of my bad taste the last 3 volumes of inu yasha arrived today |
| 03:50:06 [Puyopuyo] | Oh good, you can collect something else now. |
| 03:51:09 [nathanbp] | am I not collecting enough manga for you sam? :P |
| 03:51:43 [Puyopuyo] | Nah. |
| 03:51:53 [Puyopuyo] | You could just collect something that's more to our mutual tastes. |
| 03:51:58 [nathanbp] | I need to buy some more bookshelves |
| 03:52:04 [Puyopuyo] | Instead of "Rumiko Takahashi doesn't complete yet ANOTHER series" |
| 03:53:10 [nathanbp] | well I'm open to suggestions |
| 03:53:18 [Puyopuyo] | * Puyopuyo shrugs. |
| 03:53:24 [Puyopuyo] | No idea what you'd care for. |
| 03:53:37 [Puyopuyo] | I do know I'm grabbing Drops of God as soon as Vertical releases their first double volume. |
| 03:53:50 [nathanbp] | what's drops of god? |
| 03:54:19 [Puyopuyo] | Manga about wine. |
| 03:56:25 [nathanbp] | I ordered the first volume of Wandering Son |
| 03:57:06 [Puyopuyo] | Nice |
| 03:57:47 [nathanbp] | doesn't come out until like may tho |
| 03:58:11 [nathanbp] | so after the anime is over |
| 04:58:28 [Puyopuyo] | Well, time to watch some City Hunter. |
| 05:26:17 [Puyopuyo] | ...huh. That was very entertaining. Guess I should watch some more. |
| 05:45:58 [Pipian] | That was much longer than I anticipated :o |
| 05:53:23 [Pipian] | ffffffuuuuuu |
| 05:53:47 [Pipian] | why is it always fucking easthampton |
| 05:53:50 [Pipian] | i hate you easthampton |
| 05:53:54 [Pipian] | and all that you stand for |
| 06:02:07 [Pipian] | * Pipian continues to grouse that Elephant Six can't be bothered to travel 75 miles further east. |
| 06:05:56 [Puyopuyo] | Ha ha. |
| 06:08:39 [Pipian] | It's also the 20th of March anyway |
| 06:08:47 [Pipian] | So I couldn't go EVEN IF I WANTED> |
| 06:09:12 [Pipian] | How irritating. |
| 06:19:24 [Puyopuyo] | Well, maybe there'll be another concert sometime. |
| 06:19:36 [Pipian] | Last surprise tour was 2008 |
| 06:19:41 [Pipian] | So probably another year or two |
| 06:19:43 [Puyopuyo] | Probably. |
| 06:19:52 [Puyopuyo] | (Admittedly, I'm pissed that I missed Daft Punk's Alive 2009) |
| 06:19:59 [Puyopuyo] | (Which is like once a decade.) |
| 06:34:30 [Puyopuyo] | Hrm. Guess I'll watch a third episode of City Hunter. |
| 06:35:04 [Puyopuyo] | (Ah, 80s comedic noir-ish series. Always a genre I like.) |
| 07:20:40 [Puyopuyo] | Ah, friday, I can relax a bit... |
| 07:20:48 [Puyopuyo] | Ugh, too much homework. |
| 07:21:02 [Pipian] | Need to start mine |
| 07:21:25 [Puyopuyo] | Need to pirate the text book so I can read the first chapter and answer the questions while waiting for mine to come in the mail. |
| 07:21:46 [Puyopuyo] | The first chapter is 13 bleeding pages, and Google couldn't preview the whole thing. |
| 07:22:07 [Puyopuyo] | I guess I'll do that before I sleep |
| 07:25:45 [gadgetgrl] | do you have access to the library systems? |
| 07:25:54 [gadgetgrl] | or which book is it, i can see if i can get it through nyu? |
| 07:25:57 [gadgetgrl] | or acm |
| 07:37:14 [Puyopuyo] | This book: http://ebookee.org/Protocols-and-Architectures-for-Wireless-Sensor-Networks_1024600.html |
| 07:38:48 [Puyopuyo] | Well what do you know, that download worked. |
| 07:39:04 [Puyopuyo] | I wonder what horrible garbage they've packed into this PDF...OH RIGHT, IT CAN'T RUN ANYTHING FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. HA HA HA. |
| 07:39:44 [Puyopuyo] | Anywy, thanks for the offer, but I've got a PDF I can use for now. |
| 07:39:59 [Puyopuyo] | I'll probably kill it once I've gotten the book, as I don't need a PDF version of the text. |
| 07:44:26 [Puyopuyo] | (When I get a real job and have to stop doing blatantly illegal things like this, I will be sad.) |
| 07:54:28 [gadgetgrl] | cool |
| 07:56:34 [Puyopuyo] | At least now I can do my homework. Bleh, it's 3 AM. I should sleep. Night all. |
| 07:57:16 [Pipian] | I'm also off to bed |
| 07:57:18 [Pipian] | Night |
| 07:57:33 [Pipian] | (ETA for Sacchi going down is probably Saturday-Sunday time frame) |
| 07:59:42 [gadgetgrl] | i'm off as well...night! |
| 08:28:15 [Puyopuyo] | What the hell, Miku Miku Dance. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12064495 |
| 13:58:01 [Pipian] | Well at least it's not some stupid dance |
| 13:59:18 [Pipian] | The worst is almost certainly this reskinning to make an MSPA MMD vid |
| 13:59:24 [Pipian] | It is absolutely frightening |
| 13:59:38 [Pipian] | Because Karkat (a guy) has hips |
| 13:59:41 [Pipian] | (what) |
| 13:59:42 [Pipian] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIrPUnMK6QU |
| 15:01:38 [Pipian] | Backup is proceeding on Sacchi's server. |
| 16:31:41 [Pipian-Lab] | Sacchi, pointer? |
| 16:31:41 [Sacchi] | http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/cochineal-logs/Cochineal-2011-02-04.html#T16-31-41 |
| 16:32:32 [Pipian-Lab] | Am eagerly awaiting a log consisting solely of calls to "Sacchi, pointer?" and "!pointer" |
| 16:35:02 [Puyopuyo] | ChanServMe too. |
| 16:35:04 [Puyopuyo] | Doh. |
| 16:35:06 [Puyopuyo] | Me too. |
| 16:35:19 [Pipian-Lab] | How did that line even happen |
| 16:36:26 [Puyopuyo] | I really dn't know. |
| 16:36:28 [Puyopuyo] | *don't |
| 16:41:27 [Pipian-Lab] | googleeeee |
| 16:41:41 [Pipian-Lab] | why do you have to remove h.264 support before gpu-decoding is done :(( |
| 16:41:48 [Puyopuyo] | Booo |
| 16:42:06 [Pipian-Lab] | (They still don't have GPU accelerated video decoding for some reason) |
| 16:44:14 [Pipian-Lab] | (Or maybe they do? Investigating anyway) |
| 16:54:39 [Pipian-Lab] | These My Little Pony avatars continue to spread at an alarming rate |
| 20:38:00 [Puyopuyo] | According to Sega, today is Puyopuyo day. |
| 20:38:02 [Puyopuyo] | Go me. |
| 20:38:15 [Puyopuyo] | http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/04/puyopuyo_wifi/ <- See? |
| 21:58:20 [Puyopuyo] | Hrm. Well, that's a pain in the ass. |
| 21:58:34 [Puyopuyo] | One of my friend's WD MyBooks decided to have its miniUSB port disconnect from the daughterboard. |
| 21:58:42 [Puyopuyo] | So he opened up the whole thing. |
| 21:59:04 [Puyopuyo] | Now we're trying to figure out how we can get the data off. |
| 22:40:48 [Pipian-Lab] | Can't solder the thing back on? |
| 22:52:59 [Pipian-Lab] | http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=franklin%20roosevelt&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1431&bih=764 |
| 22:53:05 [Pipian-Lab] | One of these things is not like the others. |
| 23:16:23 [Puyopuyo] | This is a friend who isn't pleased with the idea of soldering. |
| 23:16:45 [Pipian-Lab] | Find an identical drive and swap the daughterboard? |
| 23:16:53 [Puyopuyo] | Google muppet! |
| 23:17:02 [Puyopuyo] | That's pricey, but one of the things we're going to try. |
| 23:17:16 [Pipian-Lab] | Find a defective drive of the same model |
| 23:17:17 [Puyopuyo] | I kind of just want to remove the entire damn thing, try docking it and seeing if I can pull crap off like that. |
| 23:17:28 [Pipian-Lab] | Preferably with a head crash so you know it's not a daughterboard *shrug* |
| 23:17:40 [Pipian-Lab] | That'd be the other option |
| 23:17:49 [Pipian-Lab] | Just take the internal drive out |
| 23:20:09 [Puyopuyo] | That's my plan. |
| 23:20:50 [Pipian-Lab] | Probably the easier option actually |
| 23:20:55 [Puyopuyo] | I don't think my old laptop HD failed, but it's sure as hell making it difficult to copy stuff off. |
| 23:21:01 [Pipian-Lab] | Blah |
| 23:21:11 [Puyopuyo] | (I can access it in Windows using a IDE -> USB adaptor.) |
| 23:21:15 [Puyopuyo] | But the copying is SLOW. |
| 23:26:00 [Pipian-Lab] | (If I'm lucky, the only disruption to Sacchi will be caused by the fact that DNS changes aren't propagated when the switch over happens.) |
| 23:26:17 [Puyopuyo] | (Let's hope you're lucky. |
| 23:29:24 [Pipian-Lab] | The main web-dir has been copied |
| 23:29:31 [Pipian-Lab] | Now for /etc /usr/local and /var |
| 23:31:26 [Pipian-Lab] | Heading out. |