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That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:09 pm
by Alissa of Someday
About Pando.
(Bet you thought I was going to start some kind of philosophical discussion or something...XD).
It's a large clonal grove of trees, that all shares a single root system--a forest of one.

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:39 pm
by Helel
The largest one, at that, but not the only one. Aspens in general seem to share the feature of those huge root systems shared by all the 'sprouts'.

I think I first heard about them when I went to Pike's Peak several years ago, and they noted that the Aspens there are really just one big organism. Neat.

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:34 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
Nothing says "I R hive N U R will B ded" like Pando. ;p

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:20 pm
by Alissa of Someday
Aye--not the only one, but still mighty impressive, t'me at least...

@Nikkou: Wait--'U R will B ded'? I think I am sensing bad grammar of some kind...Hm...


*Shifty eyes*

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:44 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
Just quoting the Pando, is all. 8)

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:48 am
by Alissa of Someday
XD. Oh--of course! How could I have forgotten those classes that I took in mammoth-tree speak?

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:16 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
Indeed. It may help if you take some ginkgo biloba. It is good teacher. ;p

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:24 pm
by Alissa of Someday
Oh? But what about possible increased risk of bleeding, gastrointestinal discomfort, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, headaches, dizziness, heart palpitations, and restlessness? Can I risk it!?
...
On the other hand, these things can apparently survive nuclear blasts...

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:36 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
And how would it be different from the artificial medicines people pop as pills all of the time? ;p

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:44 pm
by Alissa of Someday
Not at all o' course--but then, I avoid taking pills and the like if I can help it--that is to say, unless I'm rather sick...

Hm. Wonder if you could count these things as brain steroids...

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:22 pm
by Mitera Nikkou
And make our brain shrink? ;p

If only this new bacteria came with the kind of sexual side-effects I'd prefer to have. :lol:

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:59 pm
by Alissa of Someday
Asexuality? Not sure if I'd have any peace of mind at all if I knew that somewhere, somehow, Nikkou was dividing herself into little Nikkou clones...

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:24 am
by Mitera Nikkou
Asexuality doesn't necessarily mean mitosis. XD A female of the sexual persuasion already has all but one thing to reproduce on her own: another gamete for zygosis. Well, technically, females do have two gametes... But for a reason that I don't understand, only one ovary produces an ova at a time, normally. But if they both produced at the same time... It's not a far stretch with science, and a bit more understanding, to make it possible.

Aside from that, there are sexual species that are able to reproduce asexually (some lizards is all that I can remember right now), so it's not even impossible, naturally-speaking. On the plus side for humans, if we were able to utilize both ovaries (with changes to the ova, no doubt, since they're accustomed to receiving sperm), we'd manage asexuality and still maintain genetic diversity (if, by my understanding, each ova is not a copy of one half of the female's genome.)

Still, you're too late about the Nikkou clones. Millions of them lurk in shadows. And one of them conquered MSF this one time. ;/

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:30 pm
by Alissa of Someday
True--whenever I think of asexual reproduction though, I think of mitosis first and foremost, for whatever reason, followed closely by Meiosis...
...


*Runs off to create a Nikkou-buster squad!*

Re: That bacteria got me thinking...

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:54 pm
by Flannery
Alissa of Someday wrote:
On the other hand, these things can apparently survive nuclear blasts...

How do they know that?